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Ask HN: What would you like to see in Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelot?

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Re: Ask HN: What would you like to see in Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelot?

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Post by mhansen »

jasoncwarner wrote: post #152
mhansen wrote: post #18

Fix the 'Preferences'/'Administration' split in the gnome menu options. Most of the apps I find in there could be described as "Administrative Preferences", so I have no idea where to look for anything. Examples: Samba is in Administration, but Network Connections is in Preferences. Login screen is under Administration, and Startup Applications are under Preferences. The split between Administration and Preferences i…

Yes, configuration in general is an area we want to tackle in much greater depth. For the 11.04 release we are looking to integrate Gnome Control Panel into the power menu...we are testing during the alpha/beta period right now! See this link from the OMG!Ubuntu! folks (who are generally very good at covering latest and greatest features of Ubuntu...even during the devel period). http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/ub…

Excellent!

Re: Ask HN: What would you like to see in Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelot?

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Post by abraham »

lovskogen wrote: post #157
abraham wrote: post #52

The number one feature that keeps driving me back to OSX is the four finger swipe to activate expose. If Ubuntu had a similar feature I would probably be running it right now.

That's seriously the only thing stopping you from using Ubuntu? All the other differences doesn't matter, the four finger swipe is the make or break?

There are other things here and there that I don't like about Ubuntu but the four finger swipe is one of those polished aspects of OSX that you don't realize how integral it is to trackpad usage until you don't have it. I would guess with a high degree of confidence that you have never used a Mac with four finger swipe for more then a token amount of time based on your response.

Re: Ask HN: What would you like to see in Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelot?

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Post by robflynn »

nuclear_eclipse wrote: post #110
Garbage wrote: post #48

I have always favored Pidgin over Empathy. I think Pidgin is more feature-rich client than Empathy. Still didn't get a good reason Ubuntu replacing Pidgin for Empathy as default IM client.

I assumed the change was that Empathy was developed specifically by the Gnome group, and included as part of the official Gnome releases. Previously to that, Pidgin was considered by Gnome to be the preferred client, and Canonical was just following Gnome in switching to Empathy.

I was the gaim/pidgin lead dev. for many years. That's pretty much the gist of it, from what I can recall. While we aimed to be more cross platform, empathy was more focused on straight up gnome integration.

Re: Ask HN: What would you like to see in Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelot?

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Post by JoshCole »

portmanteaufu wrote: post #66

I don't hear many people gripe about these issues, but I have two complaints: 1.) There is no way to mute / lower the volume from the login screen. This means that if I'm in a setting where I don't want to make noise (e.g. in a library, in a meeting, in a class) and boot up, there's absolutely no way for me to prevent my laptop from playing the wonderful startup .wav file. I have to log in before I get any sort of vo…

One is actually a pretty big issue for me. Worse is that my laptop does have a hardware volume dial, but that dial only works after I've logged in.

Re: Ask HN: What would you like to see in Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelot?

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Post by mTh »

Fix the Internet connection problems for the systems behind proxies / firewalls which requires authentication.

It's a big pain to mess with the config files to set up all shipped programs to work ok in such an environment. The System | Preferences | Network Proxy... Manual Proxy Configuration, [Details] button (...enter here your username, pwd) has a very 'fuzzy' effect (even if we press [Apply System Wide...] button) - some programs work, some don't (including apt-get) etc.

For more details you can have a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/6340/cannot-connect-to-intern...

Can we have a centralized, streamlined, intuitive approach for this which really works?

Re: Ask HN: What would you like to see in Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelot?

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Post by middus »

Tomek_ wrote: post #108

- Make it possible to use it without touching/seeing/knowing of existence of terminal at all. That means, for example, that it would be possible to install all the essential programs and tools (Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Flash, audio/video codecks, Java,...), run and configure most popular servers/deamons (Apache, RDBMSes, etc.) using GUI only. Make the GUI a main way of operating the system, not a fancy wrapper over a…

It is entirely possible to install Firefox (which is the default browser anyway, Chrome, etc.) without touching a terminal using the Ubuntu Software Center.

Why would one want to configure Apache or MySQL using a GUI? This seems misguided to me.

Re: Ask HN: What would you like to see in Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelot?

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Post by lovskogen »

abraham wrote: post #162
lovskogen wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's seriously the only thing stopping you from using Ubuntu? All the other differences doesn't matter, the four finger swipe is the make or break?

There are other things here and there that I don't like about Ubuntu but the four finger swipe is one of those polished aspects of OSX that you don't realize how integral it is to trackpad usage until you don't have it. I would guess with a high degree of confidence that you have never used a Mac with four finger swipe for more then a token amount of time based on your response.

I don't use Exposé that much, just some widgets. It has it's own button.

Re: Ask HN: What would you like to see in Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelot?

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Post by bootload »

nickbp wrote: post #137
bootload wrote: post #53

"... I'm also quite interested in those who DON'T use Ubuntu and what their thoughts are on why they don't use it ..." Using Ubuntu 8.04 64AMD desktop, downgraded from 10.x. User since Ubuntu 4.x. I use the 8.04 install because a) got breach using default apache (maybe my fault/maybe not) b) because the changes in the sound system to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio means audio trouble big time. As the distro…

Ubuntu 4? I'm also somewhat tired of upgrading every 6 months just so that I can have up-to-date applications; I may switch back to Debian proper.

"... Ubuntu 4? ..."

Early adopter for a lot of things, so yeah 4 which is easily verifiable.

I've been using Ubuntu since at least 2005DEC31 ~ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bootload/79685287/ and "... the first release was Ubuntu 4.10 as it was released on 20 October 2004 ..." ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#R...

Re: Ask HN: What would you like to see in Ubuntu 11.10, Oneiric Ocelot?

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Post by nickbp »

bootload wrote: post #168
nickbp wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ubuntu 4? I'm also somewhat tired of upgrading every 6 months just so that I can have up-to-date applications; I may switch back to Debian proper.

"... Ubuntu 4? ..." Early adopter for a lot of things, so yeah 4 which is easily verifiable. I've been using Ubuntu since at least 2005DEC31 ~ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bootload/79685287/ and "... the first release was Ubuntu 4.10 as it was released on 20 October 2004 ..." ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#R...

Gotcha, hadn't seen anyone trim the MM part before.
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