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Ask HN: What made your favorite manager/supervisor/CEO so great?

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Re: Ask HN: What made your favorite manager/supervisor/CEO so great?

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She fought for us, when there was an issue she cared and sought to understand, she understood that family comes first before work (and lived the example), she protected us from the politics of the large organization, and she did whatever she could to obtain the resources we needed to do the job (a nearly impossible task at that company.) She had a 100-200 people on her staff yet she always made time to meet with whoever wanted to meet with her, and proactively scheduled quarterly skip levels with each person.

When the company's executives forced her to fire 95% of her staff, I can only imagine the turmoil she went through. She fought like hell to keep it from happening and then they overruled her and made her do the dirty work. She was also tasked with making sure we trained our replacements - IBM consultants in India. In doing so she gave us everything we needed (ie time to go on job interviews or take online courses) and was very clear that she was on our side, likely in defiance of company brass.

As a result, before the layoffs, we were good - easily the most advanced, innovative, and best performing group in the company. We really pushed the envelope despite strong forces outside our group pushing the other way. We were strapped for resources but we always made things work. She refused to take credit for it - "It's because of you guys; I'm really lucky to have an amazing team" but we knew better. We were really lucky to have an amazing boss.

I was always appreciative of her but after that experience of being laid off which was in early 2016 I feel such a strong sense of loyalty to her that if she got a job running a trash dump I would not hesitate to quit my current job (which is great) and go work for her picking through shit for minimum wage, just to be on her team again.

Re: Ask HN: What made your favorite manager/supervisor/CEO so great?

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My last manager made sure that he honored the open door policy. I was allowed to step in whenever and ask him a question or discuss anything work/non-work related. Despite all the stress he had to deal with he made sure all questions went answered. That's a true leader.

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I've had several good managers in my time, and two horrible ones. But the best I ever had, I like because he did the following:

- managed down, not up. Constantly looked out for us and got us what we needed, even though it was an uphill battle with corporate and the client. He complained about this frequently, but never made it seem like we owed him anything.

- handled a lot of the shit work, administrative, spreadsheet updating kind of stuff himself

- always hustled, but never held it against us if we didn't seem to hustle as hard as he did (in fact, he worked way harder than I did and I felt a little guilty)

- perhaps most importantly, put up with me. I was much less mature and had a lot of sharp edges at the time. He constantly coached me and also tried to cover for me. I am hoping he saw something in me at the time and that he'd be proud of me if he saw what I was doing now (though I'm sure he'd still have some coaching advice as well)

He is by far the best boss I've ever had and I will never forget him. Thanks, Jeff.

Re: Ask HN: What made your favorite manager/supervisor/CEO so great?

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post #154

Alternate wording: Why have you rationalized that it's OK for somebody to profit from your surplus labor while threatening you with homelessness and starvation?

Why would any business hire someone that didn't generate a profit, or stand to generate profit in the future?

Yes, that's the point. It's a messed up system and writing hagiographies of the "good ones" doesn't do anything to change the fact that employment is an arrangement where people with capital extort labor out of those without it via the threat of destitution.

Re: Ask HN: What made your favorite manager/supervisor/CEO so great?

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really interesting story. Was she a "good" manager, or just the "right" manager for that dysfunctional team?

Part of being a good manager is to adapt to the situation and do what's sensible. This was an example of a good manager. Conscientiousness is always a great trait.

But we got just one sample case. We don't know how she would act in the opposite situation. It could be she is a great manager but it could also be that she was promoted because the situation asked for a tyrant and she was indeed one. When someone gets promoted in the middle of a fire the person to look after to understand the decision is the person that did the promotion. Sometimes the promoted person is promoted to do the dirty work and the person above he/she it's just exploiting their personality traits.

Re: Ask HN: What made your favorite manager/supervisor/CEO so great?

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post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s true - some people only respond to that type of authority.

Learned that the hard way. :( Unfortunately can't be said enough. Managers have to learn how to deal with bad apples. Tried too hard and long giving benefit of the doubt that the apples were actually good inside in some situations.

It's not just bad apples. Sometimes people just aren't a good fit for a role. It turns out they don't have the right skills mix, need too much direction, etc. I've definitely seen perfectly nice folks who come in but it turns out they can't really do the job and no amount of coaching seems to help. It's better for everyone not to string things out too much.

Being honest, I've had one job I wasn't a good fit for myself. But the dot-com bubble burst took care of that one relatively quickly.

Re: Ask HN: What made your favorite manager/supervisor/CEO so great?

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The best boss I had is many times better than anyone else with whom I worked before or after working for him. He is someone who is well known in the graphics and chip design industry but I prefer not to name him solely to keep my semi-anonymity.

I'll list a few of the things he did that really kept me (and everyone else in his team(s)) driven. I was about to say 'motivated' but it doesn't seem to express the intensity as well as 'driven' does.

Here are some of them:

- Was involved in hiring for his team and trusted whom he hired

- He set up 'connections' in such a way that the new folks were always being mentored by people of varying levels of tenure and seniority. This wasn't a direct "so and so will mentor you". It was more that he set up the dependencies and interactions in ways that there was a gradient on which you could keep going to gain further and further expertise from people.

- Was politically adept. His teams never encountered any rubbish that was irrelevant or would slow them down. He would say "if that doesn't work, I know which buttons to press" and he'd make things happen.

- Where I work now, I have to justify before _and_ after going to a tech conference. When I was working with him, he was like "there is this conference. XYZ is visiting there and I need your_teammate and you to help him with some logistics - just take the hardware from your team. I realised after a long time that this was his way of connecting us to XYZ (who's a veteran and highly respected person in the industry) and it was a golden opportunity. He strongly believed in having people who work in different countries and offices getting to meet now and then and would find excuses to make them happen.

- If we messed up, we'd go to him and say "We messed up! This is what happened..." and he'd just say that it wasn't something to worry about and would instead ask about things that were more 'big picture' and 'long term'. This only made us even more resolved never to sully his teams' reputation.

- I once asked for access to the codebase of a project I was interested in to see if I could port it to another OS. Instead of doing that, he instead connected me to the team who worked on that project and asked them to see if I could help them. Again, he was connecting people and giving me much more than I had asked for.

- He was a visionary and would always speak about his vision in a very matter of fact manner instead of making it a grand thing. So, it made it easier to believe in it and think about it.

- He always maintained that he didn't believe in managers who "just manage" - i.e someone without a sound technical understanding of what we were working on, could never be a manager in one of his teams.

There are many more things and for the moment I'll end the list there.

I realise now that no amount of 'process' can generate this kind of drive in people. I hope that some day I can grow up to be 1% as good as he is.

People follow leaders who free them from chains - they don't thrive in systems which artificially-constrain them.

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She fought for us, when there was an issue she cared and sought to understand, she understood that family comes first before work (and lived the example), she protected us from the politics of the large organization, and she did whatever she could to obtain the resources we needed to do the job (a nearly impossible task at that company.) She had a 100-200 people on her staff yet she always made time to meet with whoe…

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Re: Ask HN: What made your favorite manager/supervisor/CEO so great?

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post #154

Alternate wording: Why have you rationalized that it's OK for somebody to profit from your surplus labor while threatening you with homelessness and starvation?

I’m curious: this reads as if you think there’s a better model. How would that model work?
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