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Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?

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Post by lucas_maximus83 »

shanwang wrote: post #40

Can't open the doc because it's blocked by my employer. But generally the developer wage is very low in Europe compared with US(Bay area). AFAIK London have the highest salary among european countries, usually handed out by Investment banks and other financial service companies. In London a tier 1 bank's VP developer will typically get £90k-110k base, plus 15-40% bonus. If you work for a hedge fund, the base is typic…

In the UK in the South you can similar salaries to London without the expense of London. I am a Senior .NET dev can I could get £50-70k. The expense compared to London is about 75%.

Up North in the UK get £40K for a senior dev is pretty hard work but everything costs half as much so it is totally relative to where you are living in the UK. The South is crowded with no infrastructure to handle it (driving in a nightmare).

Gibraltar is probably the best place to go if you can get a Job in Europe. Spain is stupidly cheap. Wages are less than say London, I lived like an absolute king on £27,000.

Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?

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Post by kuschku »

atmosx wrote: post #156
kuschku wrote: post #109

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That would suck so much, taking a 30% paycut just in the past 7 months due to this.

According the ECB[1] data on 24 Jan 2017 the exchange rate was 1 EUR = 1.0514 USD and today is 1 EUR = 1.1806 USD so we have: (1.1806-1.0748)/1.0748 = 0.0984 => 0.0984 * 100 = 9.84% How exactly did you manage to lose 30%? [1] https://www.ecb.europa.eu/stats/policy_and_exchange_rates/eu...

Then take another time span, but the currency fluctuations are so large that it becomes the largest factor to how much you actually take home.

I definitely wouldn't want that.

(I misremembered which currency fell 30% against the Euro, it was the pound instead)

Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?

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Post by internity »

After seeing this i'm like i want to start crying. i'm actually a software engineer working on cryptocurrencies devops and system engineering back-end. My tasks wait for that : 1 - coordinate withe clients 2 - write code 3 - deployement 4 - testing (golang) 5 - writing specs 6 - putting down architecture in tunisia what i get per month around 700€. a ford fiesta in here cost about 13k€.

Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?

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Post by observation »

dragandj wrote: post #103
gressquel wrote: post #99

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Turkey is not in europe.

How so? Their CAPITAL, and decent chunk of territory are on the continent called Europe. a couple tens of millions citizens live there. Just counting those would put them in the first ten-ish most populous countries in Europe.

It's best to avoid the topic or we'll be encountering Scott and Daniel.

Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?

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Post by taysic »

pc86 wrote: post #143
pmlnr wrote: post #41

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> But generally the developer wage is very low in Europe compared with US(Bay area). Because it usually comes with built-in social security and nationwide health insurance. > AFAIK London have the highest salary among european countries, Nope. Scandinavia.

> Because it usually comes with built-in social security and nationwide health insurance. In what universe do companies offer a lower salary because the country offers a better social safety net?

This is typically the case because the taxes tend to be high in such countries - thus the company compensates by offering a lower salary.

Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?

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shanwang wrote: post #157
briandear wrote: post #145

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That logic makes no sense. Since health isn’t an employer cost, salaries in Europe should be higher than the US where the employer incurs health/social costs. However, in France “social charges” are incurred by the employer which means that their cost per employee is about double of their actual salary. That means that French employers are paying social charges which finance those who aren’t employed. In the US: An e…

Health care isn't the reason for the pay gap. The technology sector in Europe is far smaller than those in the US, these days there isn't a single tech company in the EU can rival those tech giants in the US, so the pay gap makes sense. If you are a banker or a hedge fund PM working in London, your pay will be on par with or even more than your colleagues in New York.

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