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Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?
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Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?
#152This is a hot topic among some of my nerdier SME friends, and our conclusion is that the major players are HPE and Nutanix. At least from our perspective over here in Sweden. HPE did a big brain move to support multiple hypervisor backends with their own frontend. The only way to go forward imho. I'm using Proxmox at my current $dayjob, and we're quite happy with it. I come from a big VMware shop and I think most bus…
The lack of support for SANs and ISCSI really bothers me. I like the way this style of setup works, I would like to keep doing it.
Proxmox supports both FC and ISCSI though!?
Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?
#153Check out libvirtd based stacks, because that's what's supported by upstream Linux. Some shops here migrate to proxmox as a UI because of certification requirements, but I migrated some of my customers to cockpit dashboard, and some to kubernetes. It's always a matter of scale and provisioning requirements. Cockpit is my favorite so far because it's easy to setup, but its focus isn't cluster scale, which is what most…
Cockpits SSH/multiple machines feature is being deprecated though unfortunately
Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?
#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the reason for not considering Proxmox?
My 2 cents: Proxmox is too rigid. For example: 1. Proxmox cannot even join a network using DHCP requiring manual IP configuration. 2. Disk encryption is a hell instead of checkbox in installer 3. Wi-Fi - no luck (rarely used for real servers, but frequently for r&d racks) Of course, it is a Debian core underneath and a lot of things are possible given enough time and persistence, but other solutions have them out of…
My Proxmox seems to use DHCP just fine by putting "iface eno1 inet dhcp" in /etc/network/interfaces
Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?
#155Mostly bitching to corporate IT to make it possible to use alternative tools and workflows. Not kidding, that’s the main blocker. We have the DevOps knowledge on our team to go to containers, prepackaged dev environments, etc. But corporate cyber tends to respond to our requests to discuss cyber policy and escalate via proper channels with “sorry that’s against policy”. This is not my experience at one company but mu…
3rd party trust is not a joke. Why should they drop what they're doing to go and audit a new critical vendor?
Because those policies didn’t account for the workflows of engineering and dev teams. And I’m not even really asking for them to trust 3rd parties but to instead have a workflow to escalate and petition tools and workflows to become supported in house.
For example Docker Desktop being disallowed with vigor for Windows machines because it’s a virtualization tool. But Docker is fine for Linux users. And confirmed it’s not a licensing or purchasing issue.
Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?
#156Hyper-V and Windows Server 2025. It ticks all the boxes, except being BigScaryCorp for some people.
How does one actually orchestrate this at scale? The only API is powershell, right?
Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?
#157In my sphere most companies are going to either Hyper-V or the cloud. Hyper-V kinda won by default as a lot of orgs already had Windows Server licenses.
hard to beat the MSFT bundle
Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?
#158At PriorCo, I did a slide deck presentation of our options at the time (2023/2024) and pitched essentially three pathways: stay on VMware, move to Apache Cloudstack, or move to Nutanix. The deck was roundly ignored in favor of a lift-and-shift to AWS for remaining infrastructure. If I were running the migration, my preferred pathway would’ve been to Apache Cloudstack. We had the expertise to pull it off, and it would…
What's the reason for not considering Proxmox?
Proxmox wasn’t considered because of the audience (leadership) and Proxmox’s perceived market (SMBs/homelabs). I couldn’t even get them to take Virtuozzo seriously, so Proxmox was entirely a non-starter, unfortunately.
FWIW, I use Proxmox at home. It’s a bit obtuse at times, but it runs like a champ on my N100-based NUCs.
Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?
#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
> ...definitely [a] 24/7 SLA is what Proxmox needs to break into the enterprise sector I have experience with. Well, their FAQ says: For different timezones, contact one of our qualified Proxmox resellers who will be able to offer you help with Proxmox solutions in your timezone and your local language. Consulting the list of resellers that that page links to finds one that blatantly advertises 24x7 support, and it's…
That's excellent. The info a bit buried, and the lack of it front and center probably scares away a lot of clients. Proxmox needs to better their reputation right now if they're going to be counted as a contender, and burying the fact that you can have 24/7 SLA is not a good way of improving that reputation of being mostly for the homebrew crowd.
> The info [is] a bit buried...
No. It took me less than 60 seconds to find it.
> ...the lack of it front and center probably scares away a lot of clients.
I've done on-call enterprise support for the products that I and the folks I worked with maintained and extended. We were whatever tier "the folks who work on the product" is. [0]
I can pretty authoritatively tell you that the folks who are scared away by a 60->120 second search to answer the question "It looks like this one vendor doesn't offer 24/7 support, but they do offer a list of certified support vendors. Do one or more of the vendors they certify to provide support and training provide 24/7 support?" are the sort of folks you rather don't want as customers.
[0] Tier 2? Tier 3? Who knows?
Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?
#160Unfortunately there are effectively 0 alternatives to VMware / Parallels if wanting to do MacOS within MacOS.