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Ask HN: Former devs who can't get a job, what did you end up doing for work?

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Re: Ask HN: Former devs who can't get a job, what did you end up doing for work?

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When times are though qualified independent consultants can more easily get gigs than an unemployed person can get a full-time job. From the point of view of companies they like the versatility of being able to let go of consultants if things are going down or if workload dries up.

Yeah, this is along the lines of my thinking as well Just gotta start figuring out this "networking" thing

I know a couple of people who work as independent consultants, they have a few local recruiters that arrange the gigs and get like 10% of their pay.

Re: Ask HN: Former devs who can't get a job, what did you end up doing for work?

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The free lunch in the SaaS space is (finally) over, both literally and metaphorically.

What people ought to be doing is moving to remote, rural, and low cost-of-living areas that have been completely ignored by investors and techies for decades. We live in a post-covid world. Starlink works great. There are simply no excuse. Clinging onto the vestiges of Silicon Valley circa 2014 is a fools errand and has been for multiple years. It's time to start opening mocking people for being delusional.

Interact with your new rural community, and really understand their problems. You can start sprinkling technology in to help and expand from there. These markets have been ignored for a long time because their treasures are not shiny enough for VCs to pay attention to—not because there isn't tremendous opportunity to do some good and making a living.

The people following this advise aren't complaining about the job market, quite the opposite.

Re: Ask HN: Former devs who can't get a job, what did you end up doing for work?

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post #91

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Did you ever see any way you could use your dev skills to help the other job?

I did actually. I created a custom dashboard with basic stats of type of calls ran, how many calls were run by each station, how many were EMS and how many were fire calls. Then I started doing some more automation stuff. Nothing super interesting and mostly bespoke stats gathering.

Well, if you’re ever still interested in the intersection of the two, give me a buzz - my email is my HN handle at Gmail. I might have something for you.

Re: Ask HN: Former devs who can't get a job, what did you end up doing for work?

#154

The free lunch in the SaaS space is (finally) over, both literally and metaphorically. What people ought to be doing is moving to remote, rural, and low cost-of-living areas that have been completely ignored by investors and techies for decades. We live in a post-covid world. Starlink works great. There are simply no excuse. Clinging onto the vestiges of Silicon Valley circa 2014 is a fools errand and has been for mu…

Believe me, I tried, but when the local economic development person’s [1] idea of a peptalk is to tell you how many Nvidia remote employees moved into your state before, and after the pandemic, and how most start ups die here having raised between half a million and 1 million when with Section 174 you need a million to pay your taxes, that kind of sticks a fork in it.

[1] Currently bragging about leading a $50 million venture fund for the state which only matches private capital investment. Also, their previous star achievement was a 14% return over 26 years on some company Fender bought.

Re: Ask HN: Former devs who can't get a job, what did you end up doing for work?

#155

I am in my mid-70s now and for the first time in my life I can’t find part time work. I have had three really good leads in the last four or five months but in each case there was no job unless I accepted a full time position. Sadly at my age, I don’t have the energy for full time work, so it is what it is. My wife is happy I am not working, and she literally would not accept it if I tried a full time gig, even just…

If you can't find work but you're not pressed by finances have you considered teaching or starting up a community around what you have passion for? Or band up with other people of the same caliber and do something nobody can ignore.

Re: Ask HN: Former devs who can't get a job, what did you end up doing for work?

#156

The free lunch in the SaaS space is (finally) over, both literally and metaphorically. What people ought to be doing is moving to remote, rural, and low cost-of-living areas that have been completely ignored by investors and techies for decades. We live in a post-covid world. Starlink works great. There are simply no excuse. Clinging onto the vestiges of Silicon Valley circa 2014 is a fools errand and has been for mu…

Believe me, I tried, but when the local economic development person’s [1] idea of a peptalk is to tell you how many Nvidia remote employees moved into your state before, and after the pandemic, and how most start ups die here having raised between half a million and 1 million when with Section 174 you need a million to pay your taxes, that kind of sticks a fork in it. [1] Currently bragging about leading a $50 millio…

Just wait until you have competitors that want to put you out of business.

If this is too difficult to overcome, you're not going to make it.

Re: Ask HN: Former devs who can't get a job, what did you end up doing for work?

#157
I breed, train and sell horses. So I do construction, which started as a need to build structures for horses, and then turned into side gigs. It's easy as an engineer with a maxint salary and -tism to enter the construction field, because you have the discipline and the skill to read and retain manufacturer's manuals and code. I mean I have one of those autistic recalls for multimillion line codebases, I can probably remember what pitch requires ice and water shield, or nailing patterns, and such. A lot of respectable construction outfits don't, don't bother, or rely on your ignorance to do a shoddy job. Because of -tism, my work started baseline good and only improved with time, like that scene from game of thrones "many maesters whose chains are heavy with healing links have attempted it and failed, yet you succeeded. how?" "I read the books and followed the instructions". the maxint part means that you can easily outfit yourself as a pro from the very beginning. I bought a coil nailer before I even laid my first shingle, I bought a bunch of scrap material to shingle a sheet of sheathing as if it was an entire roof in my workshop, I then did it over and over and over again until I was satisfied with the result. by the time I started on the run-in which was my first roofing project I burned $$$, but got an excellent result. by the time I was doing it for other people I had a solid understanding of the failure state space, so I could make strong claims about results. this is not an approach that most apprentice builders can afford to take.

Re: Ask HN: Former devs who can't get a job, what did you end up doing for work?

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I’m usually hesitant to share but I’ve been doing commodities trading. There’s a humongous amount of BS out there about trading or day trading but the fact is that people do it and make it, and my best friend being a consistently profitable trader for the last 4 years didn’t help my skeptic case… At any rate, turns out that the challenge of trading is less of a technical or financial one. Sure, one needs to understan…

I work for a commodities data analytics company. curious to connect!

Re: Ask HN: Former devs who can't get a job, what did you end up doing for work?

#159
post #20

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Unless we only talk about big tech companies there are more devs under 100k than devs above 200k, for sure, not even close. 300k as a dev you're in the lucky top 10%

People would be surprised how much of the software world relies on low-pay PHP/wordpress developers. I know a few people who started their careers like that. No-code and low-code solutions have been getting better so the demand for those jobs is drying up though, but there are still massive operations running on top of some wordpress server that people FTP files to.

Yeah straight up, SquareSpace is killing more jobs than LLMs.

Re: Ask HN: Former devs who can't get a job, what did you end up doing for work?

#160

I'm living out of my car, door dashing and Uber in Southern Utah. Saving up to rent office space for my computer (I don't have a laptop)... I lost my mom, marriage of 18 years, Grandma, and sanity a bit last year... but I'm doing great mentally now, just need financial to align, I'm trying to enroll in WGU for CS and then ai/ml masters and I want to double major with psychology...I want to work with therapy ai things…

Wouldn't it be cheaper in the long run to just buy a laptop?

the person you're replying to is absolutely unhinged, sadly
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