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I used them this week for the first time and was impressed by the responsiveness on my phone. I looked into the network tab and what I saw was an over-the-wire solution.
However, I'm sure that you can also achieve responsiveness this without HTML over the wire. I scimmed a few blog posts, and it seemed to me like they use Java EE, although I'm not entirely sure.
Browsing HN on lynx (not logged in, haven't figured out cookie jar, settings, etc) in the early morning, it was a completely different experience: a dark screen, monocolored text, and comments. It felt like a darkened cafe of inquisitive, sometimes humorous--at turns indignant or snarky--conversation: even intimate, close-quarters, sipping at coffee or wine. That's what I miss about HN's past feature: we can't browse…
old man alert Back in my day, we wrote ASP.NET that was all server-side-rendered HTML. Once in a while we got REAL FANCY and used JQuery to make PARTIAL HTML requests and update only FRAGMENTS of the page. Hooboy I knew that fashion was cyclical but not tech!
https://www.otto.de/ I used them this week for the first time and was impressed by the responsiveness on my phone. I looked into the network tab and what I saw was an over-the-wire solution. However, I'm sure that you can also achieve responsiveness this without HTML over the wire. I scimmed a few blog posts, and it seemed to me like they use Java EE, although I'm not entirely sure.
Ablecommerce (asp.net)
What led you to think it was Java EE ?
I was just watching a talk about htmx which is awesome looking. i'm a rails guy myself so i am really interested in using hotwire in some projects. htmx looks like a very nice crossplatform approach. https://htmx.org/ Here is the talk: https://htmx.org/essays/a-real-world-react-to-htmx-port/
Unpoly ( https://unpoly.com/ ) should be mentioned as well. Much like htmx but with more features.
old man alert Back in my day, we wrote ASP.NET that was all server-side-rendered HTML. Once in a while we got REAL FANCY and used JQuery to make PARTIAL HTML requests and update only FRAGMENTS of the page. Hooboy I knew that fashion was cyclical but not tech!
We embraced Hotwire with a Clojure backend. Favorite things: - One language model (i.e. no JS, just our favorite backend language) - Extremely minimal front-end tooling - All data is manipulated with the same tools - No client-side routing, validation, or... really much at all P.S. We even wrote our own import-maps solution to avoid needing a JS bundler for the small stuff you can't do without JS.
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Someone added a ColdFusion Markup Language generator to https://curlconverter.com/cfml/ last year and after a few months I decided to remove it since I've never heard of it so nobody could possibly be using it, and the next day the guy who added support for it and 3 other people complained about it, so it seems like they're out there. https://github.com/curlconverter/curlconverter.github.io/pul...
I wonder how much visitors you have, i.e. how much popular is it? If its not a secret of course. I couldn't imagine any web developer need such kind of tool [knowing curl by heart], but obviously I'm in my own bubble and I'm wrong on my assumptions.
Someone wanted to buy the site so we added client-side analytics in August to December 2022
https://plausible.io/curlconverter.com?period=custom&from=20...
We also moved the site from GitHub Pages to Cloudflare Pages just for August 2022, to run server-side analytics to count the people that block ads and that said 116k "visits", compared to 67k "unique visitors" and 112k "total pageviews" from client-side analytics for the same time period (August 31st is missing because Cloudflare only lets you see 30 days). 116k and 112k are really close, which makes me suspect that I misunderstood and Cloudflare is actually also doing client-side analytics, but if that's not the case then it's 120,000-150,000 monthly visits.
Back in September 2021 the site used to have Google Analytics and that said 25k users with 60k sessions from Sept 17 to Oct 17 2021.
They offered us 15K for the site so we didn't sell it and they cloned it, since it's all open source. We removed the analytics again in January 2023 for the same reason we removed them before, curl commands copied from the browser might contain cookies or auth tokens and it's easier to not worry about the possibility of them accidentally getting logged by the analytics and also because it's kind of expensive and I got laid off in November. Knowing people are using your code is nice though.
> I couldn't imagine any web developer need such kind of tool [knowing curl by heart]
There might be some edge cases in Bash syntax or curl's option parsing you might miss that the tool won't (or vice versa), but you're right, rewriting a curl command in another language by hand is straightforward. But if you're doing it a lot it gets tedious and some people are writing web scrapers and bots full-time. You usually start with a curl command from the browser or some API's documentation, and if you want to do something with the returned data, you rarely want to do it in Bash. You could call the curl command and read the output in Python but you'll have better error handling and less code if you use an HTTP library. A better solution would be adding "Copy as Python", "Copy as R" etc. to Chrome directly and I opened a PR for Python but I haven't polished it enough for them to just merge it
https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/devtools/devtools...
curl is kind of complex and expects you to understand HTTP. It's better if developers that don't want/need to learn it can bypass it.
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You cannot wait on round trips to the server for user interactions Old Reddit still works fine, and I’d argue better than new front end heavy Reddit. You are right it may be for the benefit developers, but Reddit isn’t complicated enough that a heavy front end provides much benefit to the users.
Old Reddit is significantly faster than new Reddit and I found it far nicer to use, but people in general didn’t like the “old, clunky” UI. Old Reddit was much maligned for how how it looked compared to modern sites.