I work at a telco. We have many museum-grade Unices in production, mostly AIX and Solaris - we even have a Wang still running in one of our datacenters. It's largely a case of there isn't a business case to migrate it to modern hardware - one day we'll no longer operate a legacy copper PSTN network, but until that day comes, we still need it all. We still have maintenance contracts on some hardware, like our Sun Fire…
Ask HN: Anyone using proprietary Unix at work?
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#152I'd argue Mac OS X is proprietary UNIX, but I'll admit to that being a bit pedantic.
The ‘X’ and capitalization went away when they finally bumped the version number to 11.
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fair question, although the basic answer should be obvious: the users still need access to the data! So, the question becomes more like "why not upgrade", or more specifically "why not migrate the data to something that is not so shockingly obsolete", since it's probably clear that there is no real upgrade path here (both SCO and the vendor of the accounting system are long gone). Usually with systems of this vintage…
It's not Informix-4GL, is it? If it is, the DB should be available via `dbaccess`. If you don't have that executable to verify, I imagine the binary files are probably of extensions `.4ge` and `.frm`. Then, the DB is likely a directory with the extension `.dbs`, that has a pair of files per table with the extensions `.dat` and `.idx`.
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#154macOS is the most widely used UNIX on the planet.
Well, Android is Linux, does that count as "Unix"? I think there's a lot more Android world-wide than iOS/macOS/iPadOS/watchOS/tvOS/etcOS combined?
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#155Re: Ask HN: Anyone using proprietary Unix at work?
#156macOS is the most widely used UNIX on the planet.
Well, Android is Linux, does that count as "Unix"? I think there's a lot more Android world-wide than iOS/macOS/iPadOS/watchOS/tvOS/etcOS combined?
In rooted devices everything goes, on random Android device you application might get killed for trying to access private APIs, meaning anything that isn't documented as official NDK API.
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
> distribute batch workloads in parallel across a cluster of machines - no other software and OS did such a thing, maybe still doesn't What am I missing? One of my college courses ages ago was about working with MPI which we got to run on the hpc cluster. The last time I needed to run N copies of something I asked kubernetes to do it. The time before that, I asked $cloud_vendor for N identical VMs with the same cloud…
I can't speak for OP or their particular use case (because I don't know about it), but kubernetes is not a panacea for large scale batch processing. For example, large banks need to securely, reliably, and very efficiently process an unfathomable amount of transactions[1]. In this case, kubernetes would be a giant waste of resources and complexity. The former one hampers throughput, the latter one means security and…
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#159They usually are just running some closed source service that is too expensive/impractical to replace, and aren't causing enough pain and suffering to anyone so there is no business case for replacing them.
I like having them around. Sure, projects could be created to replace them with some modern webshit on Linux, but it would probably run into the tens of millions of euros, take years, and work less reliably than the shit that's been chugging along just fine for longer than I've worked in tech.
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#160AIX on POWER hardware, because it runs SAP, and between IBM and SAP they provide all-encompassing certification and support. Swapping out the OS would invalidate those assurances. Yes, modern SAP runs on Linux. Yes, it would be a good idea to migrate off AIX. But the system has been in place for 20 years and it will be another 5 years at least before that migration happens. There’s a bunch of enterprisey technology t…