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Re: Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?

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post #20

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It's incredibly annoying in Outlook. Every other Microsoft product I've used like Word supports the key-combo, but of course Outlook has to be different.

Fucking Microsoft. Why can't things be simple and standardized?

Like the reason ctrl+f in Outlook is to "forward", rather than "find".

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20140715-00/?p=50...

Re: Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?

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post #119
post #5

Just paste it into notepad/gedit/plain text editor first, then recopy it from there.

Is there any plain text editor shipped with MacOS?

TextEdit:

"If there’s a format you prefer for new documents, you can set the default format. Choose TextEdit > Preferences, click New Document, then select “Rich text” or “Plain text” below Format."

Re: Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?

#154
post #95

As some have pointed out, CTRL+SHIFT+V will save you here on Windows. It was annoying before I learned this trick; I had been using Notepad instead to strip formatting. With the shortcut, this is fine for me for most apps. What drives me barking, raving, drooling mad is the fact that it is possible for an app to lock the clipboard. Bad apps will silently cause the clipboard to fail to update, which leads to the atten…

I wonder if there is a similar workaround in MacOS. I've gotten quite used to putting things in Sublime as an intermediate step to strip formatting, I'd love to be able to skip that.

Edit ‣ Paste and Match Style is available in most applications. You can assign it to a keyboard shortcut if it's not assigned to one in the app you're using.

Also, I use Typinator, and have assigned an abbreviation to paste as plain text. Text expansion tools are indispensable.

Re: Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?

#155

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Option was required in every app I've ever tried this in... do you somehow have different keybindings than me?

I just tried in Gmail and cmd-shift-v worked.

I do command-shift-v all the time too and it works. Course maybe the places where it doesn't seem to work are the ones that require "option" too... hmm...

Re: Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?

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post #60
post #38

This! I thought I was going insane, that nobody has mentioned this until now. "When did this start happening?", I thought. But looking into it, it seemed as if it had always been like this -- only of course it hadn't! It is mind crushingly annoying, second in nerve-o-smashing only to useless mouse over popups all over a UI. "Here, let me just smack a popup over what you're reading because there's now about 0.2cm of t…

> useless mouse over popups all over a UI I go back and forth on whether I want to disable intellisense and tips in VS Code because half the time I feel like it's helpful, but the other half of the time it's covering up other code I need to reference to finish typing.

Me too. I finally settled on disabling it, but having it trigger with a keyboard shortcut.

Re: Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?

#158

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Great point! I'd then suggest that formatting that always conveys meaning (bold, italics, etc) should be copy/pasted. On the other hand, formatting that often doesn't convey meaning (font face, foreground color, background color, shadows, etc) should not be copied by default. A three-way option to system-wide (and per application) configure the behavior for control/command + x/c/v would be nice: * smart copy/paste (w…

> font face Except where you're copying math and all your Greek alphas change to a. Your smart copy/paste would be great if it is smart enough to infer the right options from context, and update from my subsequent adjustments.

The smart thing to do would be to convert it to α. (Or type that in the first place?)

Re: Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?

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post #60
post #38

This! I thought I was going insane, that nobody has mentioned this until now. "When did this start happening?", I thought. But looking into it, it seemed as if it had always been like this -- only of course it hadn't! It is mind crushingly annoying, second in nerve-o-smashing only to useless mouse over popups all over a UI. "Here, let me just smack a popup over what you're reading because there's now about 0.2cm of t…

> useless mouse over popups all over a UI I go back and forth on whether I want to disable intellisense and tips in VS Code because half the time I feel like it's helpful, but the other half of the time it's covering up other code I need to reference to finish typing.

IDEA does this too. It's infuriating.
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