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Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by thfuran »

DesiLurker wrote: post #148
zerr wrote: post #46

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Many products would have been better off by declaring them as feature complete and only continuing fixing bugs. Unfortunately, this happens rarely due to misalignment with employment incentives I believe.

This is the reason I believe there should be a framework/mechanism for dying companies to open source their works. this way they can continue to live on forever or at least have a way to influence something better.

That doesn't really do anything to address the incentives.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by joshspankit »

shrimp_emoji wrote: post #126
joshspankit wrote: post #94

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This is what I call “cashing out the social capital”. I don’t know if I’d call it a business model , but it’s certainly something that many modern businesses do.

Ah, so that's what Blizzard/Bethesda have been doing. :D

Yes exactly

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

shrimp_emoji wrote: post #126
joshspankit wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what I call “cashing out the social capital”. I don’t know if I’d call it a business model , but it’s certainly something that many modern businesses do.

Ah, so that's what Blizzard/Bethesda have been doing. :D

And EA

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by criddell »

robviren wrote: post #73
DangerousPie wrote: post #30

Maybe this is just me getting old, but I feel like Evernote has only gotten worse since I started using it over 10 years ago. Back then it was just a list of notes with some formatting and sync capabilities - perfect. These days they have added all these extra features which I don't need, and which have made the whole app slow and terribly clunky. When I use the iPad app it takes several seconds to load notes or sear…

Syncthing and your favorite text editor has been great for me. Setup is fairly easy and you depend on no offical service other than people hosting a relay server which you could also host. A little more setup and DIY, but at least the experience will remain the same for a long time.

Evernote does a lot more than text. For me, the first killer feature was taking a picture of a whiteboard after a meeting. The photo metadata is indexed (date, time, location) and all the text in the photo is recognized as well. Evernote’s text recognition works better for me than any other solution I’ve tried, although Apple is getting pretty good at that too.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by hklgny »

mech422 wrote: post #150
sofixa wrote: post #113

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Obsidian. It's markdown based, so simple at the base, but you can go wild with plugins ( including latex, graph visualisations, dynamic queries across notes, etc.), and it supports metadata, tags, etc. if you want to. You can sync with anything supporting text files ( Git, Dropbox, Google Drive, etc) or pay a bit for their ens to end encrypted service that works great.

Another vote for Obsidian here. Its the first 'note taking' system I actually _use_ (even evernote wasn't as frictionless for me). Not an issue for me, but others might be concerned about its (lack of??) mobile support. I do all my work on desktops and sync thru git, so its not been a problem for me.

Obsidian has a solid mobile app now

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by mstipetic »

mech422 wrote: post #150
sofixa wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obsidian. It's markdown based, so simple at the base, but you can go wild with plugins ( including latex, graph visualisations, dynamic queries across notes, etc.), and it supports metadata, tags, etc. if you want to. You can sync with anything supporting text files ( Git, Dropbox, Google Drive, etc) or pay a bit for their ens to end encrypted service that works great.

Another vote for Obsidian here. Its the first 'note taking' system I actually _use_ (even evernote wasn't as frictionless for me). Not an issue for me, but others might be concerned about its (lack of??) mobile support. I do all my work on desktops and sync thru git, so its not been a problem for me.

I’ve stopped using it because I can’t figure out how to make a nice home page with links to various notes and important links, it just dumps me in the latest random note. Is there a way to organize that, like in notion?

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by galkk »

uhuhoo wrote: post #149
antiframe wrote: post #136

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I wouldn't mind using it but their license keeps me away.

What is it about their license that bothers you? It seems pretty fair to me... Free for personal use, pay for commercial, unless you are a nonprofit or a single employee company. Did I miss something? (I assume you mean EULA: https://obsidian.md/eula )

Some us based companies forbid to use obsidian due to this clause in license:

This Agreement shall be governed by the laws of the Province of Ontario and the laws of Canada applicable in that Province. Any action or proceeding arising from or relating to this Agreement may only be brought in the courts located in Kitchener, Ontario and each party irrevocably submits to such exclusive jurisdiction and venue.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by temp8964 »

causality0 wrote: post #81
DangerousPie wrote: post #30

Maybe this is just me getting old, but I feel like Evernote has only gotten worse since I started using it over 10 years ago. Back then it was just a list of notes with some formatting and sync capabilities - perfect. These days they have added all these extra features which I don't need, and which have made the whole app slow and terribly clunky. When I use the iPad app it takes several seconds to load notes or sear…

Evernote has only gotten worse since I started using it over 10 years ago That is the modern business model. First you build something so good it becomes indespensible then you squeeze money out of it until your customers hate you just enough to not stop using you.

I stopped paying for Evernote two years ago. I guess the more individual customers leave, the more it makes the management depending on business users, so the less they care about individual customers.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by jitl »

grandchild wrote: post #72
ibluehh wrote: post #39

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Notion

I find it telling that notion managed to break the core web concept of the hyperlink by implementing their own version of the tag. If I middle-click on a link to open it in a new tab, I paste-insert my clipboard content _into the link text_ instead (I'm on Linux). That's just horrible.

(I work at Notion)

It's actually the browser's default behavior to do what you're describing! Inside a `contenteditable` element, links no longer behave as links -- they aren't clickable, and hovering over the link doesn't show a preview of the HREF attribute in the browsers I've tested. So in order for links to do link things, we have to fight the browser and re-implement these behaviors.

Here's a codesandbox with no JS to demonstate this: https://codesandbox.io/embed/optimistic-resonance-jbyeef?fon...

I created a task to track this bug internally. I think we can probably solve by calling preventDefault for the middle-click event if it bubbles up from inside a link.

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