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Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by richardsocher »

thematrixturtle wrote: post #144
4kelly wrote: post #8

Fastmail for email. I used to use syncthing to maintain backups and syncing, but eventually just gave into iCloud as a compromise. Setting up and maintaining syncthing on wife and kids devices became a pain. DuckDuckGo for search. Dropping down to google when I’m stuck. Honestly I’ve found google worse for technical topics due to all the junk websites that recycle content. You’ll be fighting against the current tryin…

DDG is starting to have some real competition. Kagi is quite good if you can score an invite (still closed beta), and it has DDG-compatible !bang syntax so transitioning is effortless.

you.com has the same bangs and is open to everyone :)

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by aaaaaaaaata »

kyharri wrote: post #115
keraf wrote: post #36

I moved away from Google a few years ago. I'm using the following alternatives: - Email: ProtonMail - Contacts, Calendar, Online storage: NextCloud hosted by Hetzner ( https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share ) - Phone: LineageOS (Android) -- App stores: F-Droid for most apps and Aurora store for the occasional non F-Droid apps (like the ProtonMail client) -- Maps: MagicEarth (not open source but privacy friendl…

Any particular reason to avoid OpenStreetMaps? Vs MagicEarth

and has anyone inspected what they both do on Wireshark etc?

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by uncletammy »

keraf wrote: post #36

I moved away from Google a few years ago. I'm using the following alternatives: - Email: ProtonMail - Contacts, Calendar, Online storage: NextCloud hosted by Hetzner ( https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share ) - Phone: LineageOS (Android) -- App stores: F-Droid for most apps and Aurora store for the occasional non F-Droid apps (like the ProtonMail client) -- Maps: MagicEarth (not open source but privacy friendl…

For anyone who wants to give LineageOS a try but can't/won't figure out how to jailbreak your phone to install it, check out https://privatephoneshop.com/

They have a decent selection of relatively modern phones. They will sell you a phone with LineageOS and microG pre-installed ( CalyxOS or GrapheneOS also ). They offer a super smooth buying experience and they are also quick to ship.

I've purchased two phones from them and both have exceeded my expectations. Another reason I like them is because the owners put out a lot of excellent content on keeping good privacy practices and combating invasive advertising.

My only complaint is that I wish they offered more phone models. It's a small thing though. I'm just happy they're available in the USA where it's becoming nearly impossible to purchase a smartphone that doesn't have a carrier-enforced restriction on flashing the bootloader.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by mkbkn »

tormock wrote: post #139

For email, I forwarded all emails to my new email. The rest was easy, except for Youtube... I need to find a way to subscribe to channels without a Google account (it would be nice if they had RSS and an external link).

For Youtube, use FreeTube or NewPipe for desktop and mobile respectively.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by uncletammy »

metadat wrote: post #99
ChrisLTD wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We get these posts every 60 days like clockwork.

True, and unfortunate because it means it'll be harder to tell once a truly compelling and attractive alternative comes along.

The offerings in this space change so quickly and it results in these threads having a pretty short shelf life. Getting a super current solution to arguably one of the greatest privacy problem facing our world right now is probably worth a little redundancy and clutter. Right?

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by systemvoltage »

keraf wrote: post #36

I moved away from Google a few years ago. I'm using the following alternatives: - Email: ProtonMail - Contacts, Calendar, Online storage: NextCloud hosted by Hetzner ( https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share ) - Phone: LineageOS (Android) -- App stores: F-Droid for most apps and Aurora store for the occasional non F-Droid apps (like the ProtonMail client) -- Maps: MagicEarth (not open source but privacy friendl…

ProtonMail's UI is way too slow and bloated. Their privacy values are dubious and generally more expensive. I've been using FastMail is fantastic.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by DougMellon »

greendude29 wrote: post #68
throwaway67743 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really want to like ddg but it's just awful - not only are the results completely irrelevant but now it's started showing me russian language results, I'm in a country that uses the Latin alphabet.

How strange, I've been using DDG for a few years now and only rarely do I need to go to Google. Do you have examples of searches where Google is definitely superior (just out of curiosity, not challenging the notion)?

For me, it’s sports schedules and scores. If I type MLS or NHL into Google, I get a schedule with todays games, standings, etc. DDG simply provides search results.

It’s honestly the only thing I still use Google for at this point.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by t0bia_s »

richardsocher wrote: post #151
thematrixturtle wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DDG is starting to have some real competition. Kagi is quite good if you can score an invite (still closed beta), and it has DDG-compatible !bang syntax so transitioning is effortless.

you.com has the same bangs and is open to everyone :)

Looks like it is manipulated similarly as google. Searched images of "white couple" shows mostly mixed couples.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by aydnina »

rattray wrote: post #83
RicoElectrico wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An alernative to Magic Earth would be Organic Maps. https://organicmaps.app/ Though it's not as focused on driving, it seems. But may be good enough.

I haven't seen much mention of Maps.Me, but it's another OSM-based android app I've heard good things about from Europeans and enjoyed while traveling in South America. I haven't tried it much in the US.

Organic Maps is the "original" maps.me. Though highly rated, maps.me changed ownership a few times and in between had removed lot of the original features. I believe at that time the original developers of maps.me launched Organic Maps, even though the changes mentioned above have now been reversed.

One advantage of Organic Maps is that it integrates well with OpenStreetMap. As I live in a place where OSM coverage is pretty average, I have fun adding places I know through this application and make small contributions in my own way. It also does not collect any user data. Give it a try.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by b3nji »

kyharri wrote: post #115
keraf wrote: post #36

I moved away from Google a few years ago. I'm using the following alternatives: - Email: ProtonMail - Contacts, Calendar, Online storage: NextCloud hosted by Hetzner ( https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share ) - Phone: LineageOS (Android) -- App stores: F-Droid for most apps and Aurora store for the occasional non F-Droid apps (like the ProtonMail client) -- Maps: MagicEarth (not open source but privacy friendl…

Any particular reason to avoid OpenStreetMaps? Vs MagicEarth

I'm not sure openstreetmaps has a good driving experience?

I've been using Magic Earth for several years, its getting better and better.

Its closed source, but privacy orientated apparently.

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