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Re: Ask HN: Recent computer hacking convictions and employability?

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As someone who hires many people it comes down to whether or not you are humble about it. Or, to be more blunt: if you're as ass about it. Humble: "I have a bad thing on my record. I understand what I did wrong and want to move forward with my life, doing good work, and being a responsible citizen." Jerk: "I got busted but those jerks din't see that I was helping them! It was all BS, dude!" I'd gladly interview someo…

Off topic but I have to ask, sorry: Are you MySpace's Tom?

NotThatTom :)

Re: Ask HN: Recent computer hacking convictions and employability?

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I don't believe in having multiple classes of free citizens. If a free person wants to, they could easily abduct a child, barring them from taking care of kids is a laughable feel-good policy that insults the notion that there should be no free second class citizen. If someone can't be trusted to not abuse children, they need to be jailed or on probation until they can be trusted. Those people can't be trusted in pub…

There is a huge grey area. Statistically, people who have committed a crime are more likely to commit crimes again than those who haven't. That makes for a good argument not to trust them as much, generally speaking. On the other hand, integrating them back into society (something that's lacking in the US) works well for most.

would you rather have a criminal who has not been caught work that job or someone who paid for what they have done and is working to improve?

Re: Ask HN: Recent computer hacking convictions and employability?

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post #127

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I don't believe in having multiple classes of free citizens. If a free person wants to, they could easily abduct a child, barring them from taking care of kids is a laughable feel-good policy that insults the notion that there should be no free second class citizen. If someone can't be trusted to not abuse children, they need to be jailed or on probation until they can be trusted. Those people can't be trusted in pub…

There is a huge grey area. Statistically, people who have committed a crime are more likely to commit crimes again than those who haven't. That makes for a good argument not to trust them as much, generally speaking. On the other hand, integrating them back into society (something that's lacking in the US) works well for most.

That's a terrible analysis. I would bet that even the innocent people convicted of a crime are more liKely to commit a crime after and this speaks more to our poorly functioning justice system than the person convicted. Besides, statistically everyone is a criminal because the number of laws are uncountable and unknowable.

Re: Ask HN: Recent computer hacking convictions and employability?

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post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a huge grey area. Statistically, people who have committed a crime are more likely to commit crimes again than those who haven't. That makes for a good argument not to trust them as much, generally speaking. On the other hand, integrating them back into society (something that's lacking in the US) works well for most.

would you rather have a criminal who has not been caught work that job or someone who paid for what they have done and is working to improve?

option c

Re: Ask HN: Recent computer hacking convictions and employability?

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would you rather have a criminal who has not been caught work that job or someone who paid for what they have done and is working to improve?

option c

and how do you know option c is not option a? lol

Re: Ask HN: Recent computer hacking convictions and employability?

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Demonstrate ethics? They'd have to be hired for that, I think. Otherwise how do you demonstrate ethics to someone who doesn't know you, yet? :) Certainly not in a interview, that's just talk and smiles and promises.

I think the OP's 2nd and 3rd paragraphs are good demonstrations of their ethics. A track record of "doing good" and having lots of others vouch for you is a good way to demonstrate ethics to someone who doesn't know you yet.

Those paragraphs are not demonstrations of ethics, but of technical competence.

Re: Ask HN: Recent computer hacking convictions and employability?

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option c

and how do you know option c is not option a? lol

Its not possible to be sure!

It just seemed the question was phrased in terms of those being the only options, when in fact they are the very rare options. It seems that mostly people you hire are not going to do serious criminal things, either before or after you hire them.

Re: Ask HN: Recent computer hacking convictions and employability?

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post #43

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> On the topic of cheating: In 6th grade spelling class, we had to write out our weekly spelling words 5 times each. We were allowed to handwrite, or type it out on a computer and hand in the printout. I wrote a computer program where I would input the spelling words as an array (only typing them once), and it would output a text file for me to print out and hand in. Wow, I wonder what the goal of that exercise was.…

I did this in WordPerfect in dos, even though I could program in pascal. Getting a compiler on the same computer as a printer back then was the biggest chore :)

*Imagines writing a PostScript program that interprets Pascal, so the programs can be compiled on the printer*

*Runs rapidly into the distance, screaming*

(Just found this thread, I know you'll probably never see this ;P)

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