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Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by mistermann »

ethbr0 wrote: post #100
dagmx wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's depressing knowing how large swaths of people are anti science and have made it part of their political identity to boot

They're not anti-science: they're ignorant. If we had better basic education, presumably people would be able to understand how things work.

> If we had better basic education, presumably people would be able to understand how things work.

Agreed, like the fundamentals of philosophy, psychology, neuroscience, etc. Perhaps then we could rid the world of this widespread perception of clairvoyance (perception of knowing the thoughts of millions of other people, for example).

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by mam2 »

dddbbb wrote: post #71
paxys wrote: post #9

It was clear years ago that neither he nor Brin were interested running Google day-to-day anymore. I'm actually surprised that every billionaire doesn't do the same after reaching a certain point of success. Like..is calling the shots at Facebook really that big a deal that Zuckerberg spends his life being dragged from one mess to another, put in front of Congress every other week, criticized across the political spe…

He's still relatively young, and likely realises the near absolute power he holds over one of the largest companies in the world is not something he can get back once he gives it up. Also Gates, to put it in very uncharitable terms, has shown that it doesn't matter if you're seen as a hated, greedy CEO as long as you do enough philanthropy later in life.

> Also Gates, to put it in very uncharitable terms, has shown that it doesn't matter if you're seen as a hated, greedy CEO as long as you do enough philanthropy later in life.

Well this is a weird way of assuming theres some sort of need to redeem yourself after having been "perceived" in a way by some (possibly) retards.

At that point its just easier to not care at all what people think. And its actually healthier.. look at the conspiracy anti bill gates now. Even in france some people think he tried to sterelise girls in india so the amount of charity you do doesnt even matter

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by samatman »

adamiscool8 wrote: post #109
ryantgtg wrote: post #94

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Not sure if Gates has shown that. > According to a new Yahoo News/YouGov poll, 44 percent of Republicans believe that Bill Gates is plotting to use a mass COVID-19 vaccination campaign as a pretext to implant microchips in billions of people and monitor their movements — a widely debunked conspiracy theory with no basis in fact.[0] [0]: https://news.yahoo.com/new-yahoo-news-you-gov-poll-shows-cor...

The unnecessary dismissal of these theories as having "no basis in fact" probably contributes to their stickiness. This absolutely does have basis in, arguably misconstrued, fact: >The claim emerged after a Reddit Q&A in which Gates mentioned foreseeing the use of “digital certificates” to show who has been tested for COVID-19 or who has recovered from the disease . Most of the iterations of this claim misleadingly r…

This isn't arguably misconstrued, it's deliberately twisted by actors with an agenda.

It's also an own-goal on the part of the Gates Foundation. Any adult in the US should know better than to tap into "mark of the beast" hysteria; anything which smacks of Revelation is politically a non-starter.

I think the greater source of damage is squarely on WHO and CDC: they baldly lied about masks for almost two months, then turned around and made them mandatory.

That was incredibly reckless and stupid: I was furious about it at the time, and the consequents have played out exactly how I envisioned at the time.

Our authorities spectacularly blew their credibility, out in the open where everyone can see it. Now we need them to have that credibility back, but, it doesn't work that way.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by freehunter »

mam2 wrote: post #152
dddbbb wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's still relatively young, and likely realises the near absolute power he holds over one of the largest companies in the world is not something he can get back once he gives it up. Also Gates, to put it in very uncharitable terms, has shown that it doesn't matter if you're seen as a hated, greedy CEO as long as you do enough philanthropy later in life.

> Also Gates, to put it in very uncharitable terms, has shown that it doesn't matter if you're seen as a hated, greedy CEO as long as you do enough philanthropy later in life. Well this is a weird way of assuming theres some sort of need to redeem yourself after having been "perceived" in a way by some (possibly) retards. At that point its just easier to not care at all what people think. And its actually healthier..…

I’m sure there is a way to phrase that same thought without disparaging the mentally disabled.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by shadowprofile77 »

ethbr0 wrote: post #100
dagmx wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's depressing knowing how large swaths of people are anti science and have made it part of their political identity to boot

They're not anti-science: they're ignorant. If we had better basic education, presumably people would be able to understand how things work.

I don't buy that they're simply ignorant. Yes, perhaps they are but tied into that ignorance for many, many people (that I've met anecdotally and, i'm sure in statistical terms) is a strong willfulness about their postures.

In other words, despite being shown any evidence you'd like, no matter how concrete about the incorrectness of their beliefs, they'll simply disregard said information, because to accept or even consider it would imply the possible disruption of specific political/religious beliefs that a great deal of emotional identification is invested in.

And lack of access to information isn't even an excuse for this in most cases: It applies frequently to people who live otherwise technologically connected lives, with easy access to a vast wealth of extraordinarily detailed knowledge about anything they don't understand in terms of evidence, theories and facts. Despite this, they just.... disregard it, and will even give MORE weight to the most absurdly unsubstantiated "alternative" ideas so long as they don't poke at that emotional investment I mentioned above.

Again, this is not simple ignorance, it's something much more deliberate and to call it anti-science is not at all unfair.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by a1369209993 »

mbgerring wrote: post #120
nodesocket wrote: post #113

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> A Microsoft spokesperson told Variety that the reason for his exclusion is the "comments and opinions" Persson has expressed on Twitter, saying that they "do not reflect those of Microsoft or Mojang, and are not representative of Minecraft." Apparently you're only allowed to have freedom of speech if it fits in the tech left narrative. Show me an example of a extremist left person being denied access to a company e…

I've met several people involved in union organizing at household name tech companies who have been disciplined by the companies they work for for exercising their "free speech" rights. You don't mean "tech left" here, you mean "liberal".

They're talking about the variety of "left" endorsed by tech companies; of course that doesn't include organizing unions.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by esperent »

lukaa wrote: post #86
stickfigure wrote: post #54

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I entered into parenthood with similar trepidation, but my fears turned out to be unjustified. It definitely means having different experiences, but it's waaaay more fun than I thought it would be.

There is nothing from evolutionary point of view more important than having children. It would be highly unusual if nature didn't make that experience overall speaking as one of best things in life.

And yet, all the studies of people with children show that they make you less happy, while they are around, although more happy later in later, presumably once they have moved out. Years of relief built up I guess (just kidding, more likely the benefits of having an extended close family when you are older).

Speaking for myself, I know that I would hate to have my freedom taken away by having children. I also know that my sister, who has a four year old and a one year old, has been miserable and exhausted for much of the last four years.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by moralestapia »

mam2 wrote: post #152
dddbbb wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's still relatively young, and likely realises the near absolute power he holds over one of the largest companies in the world is not something he can get back once he gives it up. Also Gates, to put it in very uncharitable terms, has shown that it doesn't matter if you're seen as a hated, greedy CEO as long as you do enough philanthropy later in life.

> Also Gates, to put it in very uncharitable terms, has shown that it doesn't matter if you're seen as a hated, greedy CEO as long as you do enough philanthropy later in life. Well this is a weird way of assuming theres some sort of need to redeem yourself after having been "perceived" in a way by some (possibly) retards. At that point its just easier to not care at all what people think. And its actually healthier..…

>having been "perceived" in a way by some (possibly) [redacted]

Perhaps you're a young man.

Warranted or not, 90s Gates was the prototype for the asshole tech CEO. Only Larry Ellison came close, and that's saying something ...

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by tgsovlerkhgsel »

Sebb767 wrote: post #34
benatkin wrote: post #15

I wondered why he doesn't have a personal website and saw that Sergey Brin, Tim Cook, and Elon Musk don't either. Ended up at gatesnotes.com and signing up for Bill Gates' mailing list.

Probably because its a lot of work and risk. With such a high profile, controversial points quickly become a lot of trouble. Also, there's a lot of overhead with running and securing the site. So, why bother if you don't have anything interesting to say on there? They are big enough to have Wikipedia host their CV.

> there's a lot of overhead with running and securing the site

Not really. Especially not if you have Google at your disposal.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by caycep »

an_opabinia wrote: post #107
mxwsn wrote: post #25

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Zuckerberg owns Facebook in a way that no other major company (to my knowledge) is owned. He is a monarch that can override any and all board politics. While power sloshes around in other companies by tug of war, Zuckerberg's word is final. Given this, I don't think it's unusual that Zuckerberg would stick around. He, with Facebook, explore new possibility space in how a company can be run that few other companies in…

The way Elon Musk put it, who rarely says stuff that doesn't sound completely crazy, is that his grandchildren will be running Facebook. It's truly totally crazy.

I was going to point out that BMW is still family run...but then again, I realize that BMW isn't also a publicly traded company...and subject to public regulation thereof...
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