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Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?
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Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
What makes you think it’s to do with patents? Maybe there’s just insufficient demand.
I am responding to a parent comment that suggested there was more demand but the company was holding it back. If that is true the only way one company could hold it back is patents.
No. They could just choose not to sell at a lower price. In a frictionless market someone else would step in and sell the good at the lower price, but in reality if not enough people want it then that third party won’t bother.
Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?
#153Here is E-Ink's 13.3˝ ePaper Display:
https://shopkits.eink.com/product/13-3%cb%9d-epaper-display-...
31.2˝ monochrome ePaper Display:
https://shopkits.eink.com/product/31-2%CB%9D-monochrome-epap...
And here is 42˝ monochrome ePaper Display:
https://shopkits.eink.com/product/42%cb%9d-monochrome-epaper...
Pricey, unfortunately. But does the work.
Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?
#154Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?
#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
In higher level education they also use the familiar chalkboard rather than electronics. I use this not to say the merits of their children's occupations (regression to the mean is common in families of great achievements) but as a warning of what people in tech see as a threat to their own children's well being. Electronics are wonderful but not for everything. If screens work better for you, perfect! They have been…
Wow, "regression to the mean". Creating something motivates most of the people on this planet, and without going into specifics, I would claim that Gateses and Jobses of this world are not all that rare as far as their abilities are concerned. Situation and, well, luck, are a big part of where life takes people. And having been provided for will discourage most from being as driven to "succeed" (in either financial o…
If they're not that rare, why are they rare?
Where did I make a judgement on their success or even use that word? Are you replying to the right person?
I doubt you've looked into the theory behind screen addiction (I didn't believe it either). It's the vivid colors and the effects they have on your brain according to neuroscience, plus the manipulation that companies utilize. I've changed my screens to grayscale and have no such problems now.
Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?
#156I've long wondered why electrophoretic displays (the generic term for E Ink, which is a proprietary name) continue to be exponentially more expensive at sizes larger than a Kindle while other technologies like OLED have become vastly more affordable in larger formats over a similar timeframe. The best I can tell is that there just hasn't been an investment in scaling up fabrication anywhere near what the likes of LG…
That's because OLED has 45 years of active development behind it's belt. EInk only has 24.
[0] The first OLED patent was filed in 1975 and the first practical OLED was created in 1987. Only in the past 5 years (2015-2020) has OLED been used widely enough to bring the price down.
[1] The first patent for an microencapsulated electrophoretic display was filed in 1996. The earliest practical EINK screen I could find was the Sony Librié in 2004.
Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?
#157The technology is there, but E Ink (the company) is steadfastly refusing to lower prices because they believe there's a market for this. Now go to Alibaba and find that you can get a flexible, full-color OLED sheet for the same price as a given size E Ink panel. Go on eBay and buy an older NOOK device (they all ran Android) for $20, tape it to your wall, and point at your web page of choice.
Do you have an example of such OLED sheet that you can recommend?
Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?
#158The technology is there, but E Ink (the company) is steadfastly refusing to lower prices because they believe there's a market for this. Now go to Alibaba and find that you can get a flexible, full-color OLED sheet for the same price as a given size E Ink panel. Go on eBay and buy an older NOOK device (they all ran Android) for $20, tape it to your wall, and point at your web page of choice.
This is why I believe patent laws (and copyright laws, but that's another story) are completely broken. Innovation is being stilfled because the world is addicted to profit, and not just profit, but easy profit. Gone are the days when making a superior product was the only way to get ahead, no. Companies want exclusive monopolies over anything and everything they create. An engineer just has to draw squiggle on a whiteboard and that becomes the IP of the company they work for. The patent system needs a complete overhaul.
Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?
#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
AFAIK drm version 3 still isn't cracked, but there's some epubs without drm, and most with drm is possible to get with older drm for backwards compatability reasons. I'm not sure what the status of drm circumvention for fair/own use is in the US - I think there was a case that opened up for viewing/backing up dvds, but if not - this is still illegal, which partly defeats the purpose of buying through Amazon.
I think as long as there is no copyright infringement involved (i.e. as long as you don't redistribute it) it's ok. IANAL.
Possibly. I vaguely recall this... But I'm not sure if there's been other rulings, or if ebooks or media-as-a-service has been in the courts after this.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2010/07/court...
Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?
#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
has something changed? it used to be easy but looks like there's a per-device encryption support in new kindles.
AFAIK drm version 3 still isn't cracked, but there's some epubs without drm, and most with drm is possible to get with older drm for backwards compatability reasons. I'm not sure what the status of drm circumvention for fair/own use is in the US - I think there was a case that opened up for viewing/backing up dvds, but if not - this is still illegal, which partly defeats the purpose of buying through Amazon.
it's interesting but some kindle books I've purchased have a little blurb at the beginning of the book that says something like "the publisher has distributed this book without DRM"
I always wondered if the kindle file was actually unencrypted.