Twisted. Not only highly organized and sensibly delineated, but also a lot of fun to read - borderline comical at places.
How do you think the asyncio (formerly Tulip) sources compare?
Ask HN: What open source project, in your opinion, has the highest code quality?
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Re: Ask HN: What open source project, in your opinion, has the highest code quality?
#152Its older than some HN posters, but the GPLed DOOM source code was one I liked. The performance reached by the game was considered impossible until Carmack did show us otherwise. So I expected lots of ASM and weird hacks, especially as compiler optimization wasnt as good as it is today. Surprise, surprise, the thing was easy to read, easy to get going, easy to port, reasonablye documented . It has shown me what a goo…
You are reading cleaned up source code that only compiles and runs on Linux. That's why it looks nice.
Many thanks to Bernd Kreimeier for taking the time to clean up the
project and make sure that it actually works. Projects tends to rot if
you leave it alone for a few years, and it takes effort for someone to
deal with it again.Re: Ask HN: What open source project, in your opinion, has the highest code quality?
#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
They actually have to test to that degree to follow aviation standards (DO-178b [0]) because they're used in aviation equipment. Dr. Hipp said he started really following it when Android came out and included SQLite and suddenly there were 200M mobile SQLite users finding edge cases: https://youtu.be/Jib2AmRb_rk?t=3413 Lightly edited transcript here: > It made a huge difference. That that was when Android was just ki…
SQlite is very high quality software, but they use DO-178b "inspired" testing process. As far as I know they don't have version of software that is or can be used in safety critical parts despite their boasting. They say in their site that: > Airbus confirms that SQLite is being used in the flight software for the A350 XWB family of aircraft. Flight software does not imply safety critical parts of avionics. It can be…
Good point. The video I linked to merely says that he was contacted by someone in the aviation space about the standard, which I took to mean that it was used in avionics.
Re: Ask HN: What open source project, in your opinion, has the highest code quality?
#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
They actually have to test to that degree to follow aviation standards (DO-178b [0]) because they're used in aviation equipment. Dr. Hipp said he started really following it when Android came out and included SQLite and suddenly there were 200M mobile SQLite users finding edge cases: https://youtu.be/Jib2AmRb_rk?t=3413 Lightly edited transcript here: > It made a huge difference. That that was when Android was just ki…
SQlite is very high quality software, but they use DO-178b "inspired" testing process. As far as I know they don't have version of software that is or can be used in safety critical parts despite their boasting. They say in their site that: > Airbus confirms that SQLite is being used in the flight software for the A350 XWB family of aircraft. Flight software does not imply safety critical parts of avionics. It can be…
Yeah DO-178B gives several levels for software from DALA (highest) to DALE (lowest). If DALA software fails the results are catastrophic if DALE fails there is no effect on the aircraft. Since DALE is usually just test equipment and such they might be at a DALD level. So still requires a lot of testing but not nearly to the level that DALA requires.
Re: Ask HN: What open source project, in your opinion, has the highest code quality?
#155This is not necessarily about the code, but I've been really impressed for a while by the lodash project and its maintainer's dedication to constantly keep the number of open issues at 0. Any issues get dealt with at record speed, it's quite a sight to see. https://github.com/lodash/lodash/issues
Not necessarily relevant, but 15% of the issues are labeled "wontfix".
As an open source maintainer myself, that seems like a pretty low percentage.
Re: Ask HN: What open source project, in your opinion, has the highest code quality?
#156I hold the source code of Go standard library & base distribution (i.e. compiler, etc.) in very high regard. Especially the standard library is, in my opinion, stunningly easy to read, explore and understand, while at the same time being well thought through, easy to use (great and astonishingly well documented APIs), of very good performance, and with huge amounts of (also well readable!) tests. The compiler (includ…
I'd agree, but only as far as aesthetics go. When you have to understand the time complexity and runtime characteristics of the standard library sorting algorithms, I think Go does a very bad job - the standard `sort.Sort(data sort.Interface)` will run poorly if the data is already mostly sorted. I expect these kinds of things to be documented properly.
I was pretty certain most libraries shuffle then quicksort. No need for documentation. Does go not do this?
Re: Ask HN: What open source project, in your opinion, has the highest code quality?
#157Its older than some HN posters, but the GPLed DOOM source code was one I liked. The performance reached by the game was considered impossible until Carmack did show us otherwise. So I expected lots of ASM and weird hacks, especially as compiler optimization wasnt as good as it is today. Surprise, surprise, the thing was easy to read, easy to get going, easy to port, reasonablye documented . It has shown me what a goo…
You are reading cleaned up source code that only compiles and runs on Linux. That's why it looks nice. Many thanks to Bernd Kreimeier for taking the time to clean up the project and make sure that it actually works. Projects tends to rot if you leave it alone for a few years, and it takes effort for someone to deal with it again.
I didnt have interrnet at the time so I didn't check github 20 years ago ;-)
On the more serous side, i wanted to say something about the TODOs as example of the balance, but couldnt find any. I thought i was confusing with quake, but the cleanup might explain it better.
Re: Ask HN: What open source project, in your opinion, has the highest code quality?
#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
Shouldn’t good performance be one of the goals of good code?
Depends on the design goals. If you want secure code, you'll make it readable. Here's true(1): : A single "noop" in a 755 file. A C true would be: https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/src/usr.bin/true/true.c?rev=1.1&c... Here's a much faster true(1) if you need it: https://github.com/coreutils/coreutils/blob/master/src/true....
How is the coreutils true faster?
I would expect the openbsd true to be the fastest, it doesn't need to spawn a subshell and it doesn't do more than the posix specification requires (afaik --help/--version should be ignored).
Re: Ask HN: What open source project, in your opinion, has the highest code quality?
#159It's funny to see nobody is even questioning the question. What does it even hold as a value to be the project of the highest code quality in the world ? How can it exist as a consensus if we can't even agree on best practices ? If it's for learning purposes, why even look for the ONE project with the HIGHEST quality ? Just go by any GOOD ENOUGH project. I see this all the time: what's the best editor, the best color…
Popular opinion is a poor test of truth. The rationales offered can be illuminating, however.
I'd actually considered making a similar comment on seing the question.
Re: Ask HN: What open source project, in your opinion, has the highest code quality?
#160Pari:
http://pari.math.u-bordeaux.fr/git/pari.git
I prefer the early versions, before it was softened up for the vulgo.