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hard to say - just trying to figure it out
Based on your responses, I think your soft skills / people skills are letting you down. I would recommend working diligently on how you interact and communicate so that you do not come across as arrogant, dismissive, or out of touch.
Ask HN: Can't get hired – what's next?
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#144I don't really know what it's like in America but 150k here is insane. If you really can't land a job, it's either time for an attitude adjustment or perhaps a third bite at the apple.
I don’t know where you are but 150k is decent at best in most US and Western European big cities. So if someone has a few years of experience under their belt, the expectation isn’t too complacent.
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I don’t know where you are but 150k is decent at best in most US and Western European big cities. So if someone has a few years of experience under their belt, the expectation isn’t too complacent.
US$150k is not only "decent" in high-income Western European cities (Paris, London, Amsterdam, etc.), it's a huge salary, usually in the top 5% of earners. This expectation is why software development has become the neo-yuppies of the 2010s-2020s, people with overinflated expectations because they are keeping-up-with-the-Joneses from the internet being loud about their high salaries. Yes, there are people earning a l…
I live in Europe, and 150k isn’t a moonshot salary here. Just because something isn’t the norm doesn’t mean no one should try to achieve it.
Also, OP doesn’t live in Europe and clearly doesn’t care. So 200k is a reasonable ask there. American salaries aren’t outliers; they correspond to the cost of living. Being bitter about your own wage and trying to denigrate someone else isn’t helpful.
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#146Have you considered stopping using LLMs? They really do seem to destroy some peoples’ ability to program in a short period of time.
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#147You have set a high goal of $150k salary without a clear way to achieve it, or a clear passion, if I'm reading correctly. What is your depth of knowledge in? You say software? Law would be an risk idea if you don't love it with all your heart, even people who love law hate it by the end of law school.
People on HN saying $150k is a "high bar" is frankly insulting. Anyone in the bay who's not a founder or working for a meaningless company easily clears $200k. I've started two companies, exited one and technically have the skills of a "senior engineer". I've managed teams of engineers and have architected remote factory production systems for one of my companies along with a dozen or so relatively complex web apps i…
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US$150k is not only "decent" in high-income Western European cities (Paris, London, Amsterdam, etc.), it's a huge salary, usually in the top 5% of earners. This expectation is why software development has become the neo-yuppies of the 2010s-2020s, people with overinflated expectations because they are keeping-up-with-the-Joneses from the internet being loud about their high salaries. Yes, there are people earning a l…
I literally don’t understand the rationale behind trying to bring down anyone aiming for a higher wage. I live in Europe, and 150k isn’t a moonshot salary here. Just because something isn’t the norm doesn’t mean no one should try to achieve it. Also, OP doesn’t live in Europe and clearly doesn’t care. So 200k is a reasonable ask there. American salaries aren’t outliers; they correspond to the cost of living. Being bi…
My point was to what I stated about European cities, not sure why you felt the need to state the obvious, refrain from strawman-ing, please.
> I literally don’t understand the rationale behind trying to bring down anyone aiming for a higher wage.
One can aim as much as they want but there's reality: that kind of wage is reserved for less than 5% of the population of already very rich countries, by definition it's not achievable by the majority, and having that as an expectation is bound to bring a lot of people feeling like failures because they can't achieve it. Keeping reality in mind is very good to not end up frustrated because you are earning a salary of 80k€ which is already more than 70-80%+ of what workers earn in the EU...
Aim for what you feel like while keeping in mind that, statistically speaking, you might not achieve it but can still have a very good life with less than that.
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#149You have set a high goal of $150k salary without a clear way to achieve it, or a clear passion, if I'm reading correctly. What is your depth of knowledge in? You say software? Law would be an risk idea if you don't love it with all your heart, even people who love law hate it by the end of law school.
People on HN saying $150k is a "high bar" is frankly insulting. Anyone in the bay who's not a founder or working for a meaningless company easily clears $200k. I've started two companies, exited one and technically have the skills of a "senior engineer". I've managed teams of engineers and have architected remote factory production systems for one of my companies along with a dozen or so relatively complex web apps i…
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#150Adjust your definition of a “real career” as one making over 150k. Another adjustment is thinking 4 months is a long time, especially given you know you could improve interviewing. Check out data fields. I’m in data analytics, no I don’t make 150k, but it’s a good living and I consider it real. I do a lot of good and save government a lot of money with my tech skills.
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.. okay, so why do you need 150k out of the gate, then?