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Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by azath92 »

simpaticoder wrote: post #62
simonw wrote: post #32

I built you this: https://tools.simonwillison.net/hacker-news-filtered It shows you the Hacker News page with ai and llm stories filtered out. You can change the exclusion terms and save your changes in localStorage. o3 knocked it out for me in a couple of minutes: https://chatgpt.com/share/68766f42-1ec8-8006-8187-406ef452e0... Initial prompt was: Build a web tool that displays the Hacker News homepage (fetched from…

An interesting example of both LLMs' strengths and weaknesses. It is strong because you wrote a useful tool in a few minutes. It is weak because this tool is strongly coupled to the problem: filtering HN. It's an example of the more general problem of people wanting to control what they see. This has existed at least since the classic usenet "killfiles", but is an area that, I believe, has been ripe for a comprehensi…

Not sure what a local solution would look like when what you see is on websites, maybe a browser extension? we just made a similar reskin as a website, and it works great, but is ultimately another site you have to go to. Its another narrow solution with some variation (we do use AI to do the ranking rather than keyword filtering), but im interested in the form factors that might give maximal control to a user.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by lazide »

kylehotchkiss wrote: post #107

It's a hype cycle that will eventually die down. People here are usually pretty excited for new hype cycles they think they can make equity windfalls from. It's looking less likely that individuals will be making windfalls even as of this week with the new style of top-talent-acquihire acquisitions that seem to be increasing in number, so there's hope that HN goes back to generally technical :)

Difficulty - AI makes it a lot easier to generate mountains of hype articles and drown out other content, self-reinforcing the hype.

Different than prior hype cycles.

Frankly, this one seems to be dying out more from everyone just flat out refusing to pay attention to online stuff or things on their phone long enough to starve the beast. If that is even possible.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by gojomo »

~simonw's demo of a quickie customized HN front-end is great.

But ultimately, your browser should have a local, open-source, user-loyal LLM that's able to accept human-language descriptions of how you'd like your view of some or all sites to change, and just like old Greasemonkey scripts or special-purpose extensions, it'd just do it, in the DOM.

Then instead of needing to raise this issue via an "Ask HN", you'd just tell your browser: "when I visit HN, hide all the AI/LLM posts".

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by owebmaster »

bee_rider wrote: post #106
owebmaster wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know but the irony stands. We will get used to people getting embarrassed by AI results.

This seems like exactly the type of problem human-written filtering systems fall into as well.

human-written filtering systems don't brag about having a solution for a problem in 2 minutes and fail.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by sgc »

ublock origin filter example, removes post, post actions/stats, and spacer:

news.ycombinator.com##tr.submission:has(:has-text(/LLM|agentic/)) + tr + tr

news.ycombinator.com##tr.submission:has(:has-text(/LLM|agentic/)) + tr

news.ycombinator.com##tr.submission:has(*:has-text(/LLM|agentic/))

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by marcellus23 »

throwaway290 wrote: post #136
raincole wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is literally an input box to put terms you want to exclude... The prompt asks for "filters out specific search terms", not "intelligently filter out any AI-related keywords." So yes, a good example of the power of vibe coding: the LLM built a tool according to the prompt.

The prompt was to exclude llm and ai by default though

the prompt was "default to "llm, ai"", which is exactly what it did. Nothing in the prompt about defaulting to other related terms

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by lazide »

bee_rider wrote: post #105
Reubachi wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Our brain decodes info based on context and extrapolation This submission we're commenting on could be about filtering out any data, not just AI stuff. Politics, crypto, AI etc. Or more minute like "Trump" "fracking" "bitcoin" etc. In any of these scenarios, with a tool designed to filter out content based on limited context, when would you ever be perfectly satisfied? would you like AI to help you build the perfect…

And certainly in our anti-politics filter we’d want to include the filtering of stories that promote the extreme political position that tech is somehow detached from politics! (Especially Silicon Valley startup tech that owes so much to the local politics and economy of California). Which is to say, filtering politics out is absurd, one person’s extreme politics is another’s default view of the universe.

In a similar vein, I’ve had people assert (in all seriousness), their English had no discernible accent because they were American.

It’s a similar kind of mindset.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by scoofy »

I say this about Reddit all the time. If you’re on Reddit (or HN) to just consume, then you’re doing it wrong.

Threads that are “my feed isn’t what I want” are exhausting. Sure, cool, but unless someone is breaking some rule, you’re looking for an algorithm to feed you content, which is all well and good, but it’s a different type of site.

Reddit (and HN) are designed exactly so that you can share something interesting you found.

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