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Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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One successful version of what you're asking about seems to be the Vermont based Front Porch Forum. They have gotten some press in the last year and there was this thread about them on hackernews a while back : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41208506 Whether they'd be receptive to share their secret sauce and let a thousand Front Porches bloom is another question though, guess you could ask them! :)

I've wondered how FPF has managed to pull off such an achievement. Perhaps FPF became the local standard, reaching a self-sustaining mass of users before the Facebook and Nextdoor marketing machines saturated user attention elsewhere in the country?

Having grown up nearby, there is a strong sense of roots people have out there, as well as a strong preference for local-made everything. Think of it as a rural, fairly well-educated anti-Walmart energy. It may be hard to reprodu e that environment and even harder to start something like that up once alternatives are already available.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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You (and your parent comment) said “make the world a better place”, not “change” it. Very few things change the world meaningfully. And the point stands: what he did was more relevant than most (if not all) Facebook communities will ever accomplish.

Splitting hairs. If you use a platform nobody uses to try and change the world you won't change it just like if you tried to plant trees without using seeds.

The point is precisely that you don’t need a social networking platform to do something meaningful.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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We have a local email list. Hosted on google groups, but I suppose you could use a tool like https://groups.io/ or self-host as well.

Came here to suggest groups.io as a mailing list. I use it for my HOA--we need timely notifications (trash pickup delays, parking bans, etc.) and a lot of folks don't have (or want) Facebook. It has solid moderation tools, apps if you want them (you don't need them), and some useful bonus features (calendars, polls, wikis, docs, etc.) if you find yourself needing them.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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> I live in a more rural community (moved from a big city). We have 5-6 small (~50k people) towns, all well connected. Everything happens on Facebook. I would like to move to a different platforms. Plus points for self-hosted, federated. Do YOU want to move off of Facebook for some reason, or do people want to move off of Facebook for some reason. MOST people in the US, especially in a rural are are not going to quit…

This is a bizarre response on a platform that frequently discusses moving things off of centralized applications and services out of concern for the long term stability or safety of that platform - you assumed their motives and turned it into a political statement right out of the gate.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Are you talking about his role censoring for the current, or for the former admin? His flip flopping shows such a lack of character. However, being selectively outraged because this time he is doing it for someone you disagree with, which a lot of people are, reveals the real motives.

ok so where do those who have been consistently mad at the people variously in power going back to 2016 or even 2008 go to complain? non-partisan free speech believers exist

I agree. I like nostr the most out of the similar attempts at creating a standards based multi client social graph. Not a huge fan of federated servers like Mastodon. Bluesky seems like it has some good parts with the @ protocol, but is quite bad at non-partisanship in practice.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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I run a discussion group that meets once a month - our tech stack is 1. A blog running WordPress that I use to announce meetings 2. A meetup.com account (free tier) that has the same information as the blog 3. A MailChimp account (free tier) where I send notices about the meetups 4. A very active Slack group (free tier) where I announce meetups and we have entended discussions. Discord would probably work just as wel…

Discord has replaced facebook and reddit for some of my communities and it works really well in general. Unfortunately we are seeing them turn toward incorporating ads which is somewhat offputting. I'm already looking into a self hosted discourse forum as an alternative but it lacks the immediacy of live chat for better or worse

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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I know someone who committed a misdemeanor and is on probation, one term of which is that he's not allowed to use "social media" (chat, etc.) although he can use plain ordinary web sites.

This person made the mistake they did because of their social isolation and the probation officer is entirely supportive of his developing more face-to-face connection, but he finds it frustrating to find a poster for something like a board game club which has nothing but a QR code that points to a Facebook page.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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> I live in a more rural community (moved from a big city). We have 5-6 small (~50k people) towns, all well connected. Everything happens on Facebook. I would like to move to a different platforms. Plus points for self-hosted, federated. Do YOU want to move off of Facebook for some reason, or do people want to move off of Facebook for some reason. MOST people in the US, especially in a rural are are not going to quit…

Most people in the US have already quit that app, the battle's not that uphill. You're starting half up

Most people you know may have. But most people have not quit Facebook.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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* Look into Diaspora. ( https://diasporafoundation.org/ ). Upside: It's basically a self-hosted facebook. Really cool project. Downside: Unlike facebook, there's no fake/pushed content so it tended to feel stale. * Look into hosting a forum (e.g. phpBB). Forums are excellent because they don't lose old information like facebook does. When someone says "Hey what's the policy on dogs?" three years later I can search "d…

> Downside: Unlike facebook, there's no fake/pushed content so it tended to feel stale.

It would be cool if they had a scraper that could pre-populate the system with some content from Facebook.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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He’s talking about private groups. Regardless, no private platform is forced to provide you a voice. You can set up your own site and set up your own servers if need be. People have been getting their ideas out there before social media and even when the mainstream media wouldn’t cover them. That’s how the civil rights movement came to prominence.

> Regardless, no private platform is forced to provide you a voice. That was a reasonable stance historically. Only the government had real power to control speech. Now a tiny number of platforms have a huge amount of power. They should have an obligation not to censor, because between them they can virtually block all practically available channels of communication.

> They should have an obligation not to censor, because between them they can virtually block all practically available channels of communication

Absolute bullshit. It has never been easier in history to publish your own thoughts for the consumption of anyone who is interested in reading them. You can make your own website and put just about whatever you want on it. You can write and publish pamphlets or books with print on demand services. You can record audio or video with your phone and put it on your website or just send it directly to people. You can walk down to the town square and say pretty much whatever you want.

You absolutely don't need to be on Facebook or Twitter or ANY social networks to exercise your free speech. None of these companies has power over any means of communication other than their own platforms. You don't have to use their platforms.

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