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Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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Post by prepend »

voisin wrote: post #41
qbasic_forever wrote: post #24

Microsoft completely lost mobile. Like not just a few goofy phones like Kin, they just straight up have no relevance or marketshare or anything in what is clearly the future platform for all computing. A lot of this damage was done under Balmer, but IMHO Nadella has a lot of blame too. Microsoft has gone from domination of computing platforms and making money on every single device sale to competing for scraps in som…

> Microsoft completely lost mobile. Like not just a few goofy phones like Kin, they just straight up have no relevance or marketshare or anything in what is clearly the future platform for all computing. Lost on mobile hardware and OS but their software (office, outlook, OneDrive) is extremely popular on mobile, no?

Microsoft wants $100/year for Office for every mobile user.

So they’ll likely make more money off mobile than Google will.

Although they don’t build any phones or mobile OSes, they are making a ton of money off mobile (without paying the App Store percentages to Apple or Google).

Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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Post by toast0 »

bathtub365 wrote: post #118
michelb wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure Windows is on the path to no longer being interesting and necessary for Microsoft. Either they come up with a brand new iteration, or everything will go to the web.

What are people going to run on their computers?

Personal computers are on their (slow) way out. Phones provide good enough connectivity and communications for a lot of people. If you can only afford one, most people would choose a phone rather than a computer.

Business computers are still needed for office workers, for now.

Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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Post by toast0 »

dustedcodes wrote: post #116
arvinsim wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as I am impressed by Apple Silicon, I haven't seen the buying habits of people I know change. Windows laptop owners still continue to buy windows laptops.

Maybe I am in a bubble, but in my family I was the only Apple user 5 years ago. Today we have got not a single Windows device left anymore. My wife has a MBA now, my mum has a MBA now, my sister has a MBA now. Same goes for the .NET community. So many developers who some time ago would have only developed on a Windows machine all switched to Apple over the last few years and most people don't ever look back. I apprec…

Definitely a bubble. Comparable and accurate numbers are hard to get, but wikipedia reports [1] Apple having 9.8% of personal computer units shipped globally. It's certainly a different number if we could get a breakdown by country.

In my bubble view, I don't see a lot of switching. Apple people like their M1/M2 mostly, other people aren't as excited about cpus, but seem to be doing ok. I'm definitely not an Apple person, and am feeling pushed away from Windows as well, but I haven't landed on FreeBSD for desktop yet.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_share_of_personal_com...

Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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Post by toast0 »

tdsanchez wrote: post #127

Microsoft SHOULD be a leader in mobile and instead they just pivot from one tech hype to the next. Windows 11 is a laughing stock to many and it isn't exactly flying off the shelves. Microsoft is a hot mess and Nadella is a trader the same way Pichai is at Google. Same for Tim Cook. Look back at news articles for the past year and watch how fast Nadella pivoted from "the metaverse" to GPT. Stock buybacks make CEOs lo…

> Microsoft SHOULD be a leader in mobile and instead they just pivot from one tech hype to the next.

They are, they had flat UI and dark mode years before anyone else. I imagine iOS and Android will get live tiles one of these days, too.

Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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Post by james-revisoai »

toast0 wrote: post #143
dustedcodes wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I am in a bubble, but in my family I was the only Apple user 5 years ago. Today we have got not a single Windows device left anymore. My wife has a MBA now, my mum has a MBA now, my sister has a MBA now. Same goes for the .NET community. So many developers who some time ago would have only developed on a Windows machine all switched to Apple over the last few years and most people don't ever look back. I apprec…

Definitely a bubble. Comparable and accurate numbers are hard to get, but wikipedia reports [1] Apple having 9.8% of personal computer units shipped globally. It's certainly a different number if we could get a breakdown by country. In my bubble view, I don't see a lot of switching. Apple people like their M1/M2 mostly, other people aren't as excited about cpus, but seem to be doing ok. I'm definitely not an Apple pe…

The trend is also reversing in some segments Apple owned which masked that there may be quite a trend occurring for home purchases, but the data doesn't show it because the extra purchases and hidden by losses.

For example University libraries in the UK - at least those in the higher ranked universities - used to typically buy Macs/MacBooks somewhat as a status symbol, over Microsoft PCs. Today, there are few and far computers with the set up of a computer lab now almost entirely dead to laptops. I don't think this had an insubstantial impact on Apple, but it was probably masked by the rise of mac-based startups and other trends in Mac.

Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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Post by felixg3 »

suby wrote: post #50

You say that Windows is a Kraken, but it's been on a downward slide in my mind. I don't think Nadella gets enough flak for what is happening to Windows and Microsoft's attitude towards respecting users / privacy in general. Some examples that I've seen posted to HN over the past few months * Microsoft Edge leaks browser history to Bing - https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/25/23697532/microsoft-edge-b... * More ads in Wi…

I‘m not sure if Microsoft ever cared about user privacy, being a major player in mass surveillance and data processing for the US government. Instead of selling out our data to a nation state, they are now engaging in surveillance capitalism, too.

If you care about privacy, there is only one option, and that’s Desktop Linux, albeit less than ideal in many use cases.

Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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Post by felixg3 »

ginko wrote: post #42
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know any numbers but I would guess that Xbox is not close to being the market leader. Sony has that wrapped. Xbox is probably closer to Nintendo. They do, however, have a competitive platform which is important. Something they could never do with Windows Phone.

> Sony has that wrapped Nintendo sold 4 Switches for every PS5 on the market.

Given the price stability and the hardware specs, probably also a higher profit per device.

Re: Ask HN: Is Satya Nadella the best tech CEO of last decade?

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Post by goolz »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #24

Microsoft completely lost mobile. Like not just a few goofy phones like Kin, they just straight up have no relevance or marketshare or anything in what is clearly the future platform for all computing. A lot of this damage was done under Balmer, but IMHO Nadella has a lot of blame too. Microsoft has gone from domination of computing platforms and making money on every single device sale to competing for scraps in som…

They also have control of a swath of the gaming sector and that is one of the biggest and fastest growing industries in the world. You are totally right I just think that should be considered.
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