Ask HN: Are we all burned out?
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#142You’ve taken on the world’s problems by mistake. - Covid has a nearly 100% survival rate. Have you or someone close to you been mortally affected? Most people I know have not been affected at all. - The war in Ukraine is happening in Ukraine. Are you near Ukraine? - Employment rates are very high and the job market is still hot. Are you actually affected by the macroeconomic factors? Focus on your kid. Focus on yours…
Not sure about that survival rate, but do know 1 in 5 people with covid get long covid which can include loss of taste, smell, and neurological effects very bad for knowledge workers.
Re: Ask HN: Are we all burned out?
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem with in person community is typically not that we cannot become part of one, the problem is that we don't want to sacrifice our individualistic urges as we would have to, if we seriously became part of a collective. To many of us believe we can live the individualistic dream and be part of a collective without subtracting from either one. This is not possible. Being part of a collective often means we can…
> In times of the internet we could potentially even choose our collectives. While I agree with you on some parts[1], I somewhat doubt that distant relationships (not necessarily romantic ones) work out well. The lockdown measures took a heavy toll on my mental wellbeing. I imagine other people had similar experiences. 1. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2017/04/over-nearly-8...
This was not my point. We can use the Internet to find offline communities as well. I grew up on the country side and without the Internet I would have had to settle with the type of people I had in my vicinity and those people were definitly depressing me. With the web I could not only find out something else exists, I could also get to know different people and form an image of the kind of people I could imagine spending more time with. So the Internet must not be the connection, it can be the tool that brings people together in a literal, geographic sense. So instead of having it only be for communication, it can also be for discovery.
But to your original point: I also happen to live with a women that I had 4 years of (changing) long distance relationship with, we are happily together now for more than a decade¹. One of my best friends I got to know each other on a musicians forum. I first met him after having known him for 4 years. We are still besties despite him living in a different country now². Next year I am invited to the wedding of yet another person I am only in contact with online.
The Internet is not (or should not be) the end goal for your own personal community, but it can help to build and sustain relationships despite physical distances. If you are young it can help you figure out
-- ¹ I agree however that long distance relationships are not for everybody and it is crucial to know why you are having one. Many people e.g. have long distance relationships because they are secretly afraid of the real deal. Most have that kind of relationship out of necessity and there are few who can make it work. A long distance relationship can be a stress test for a relationship, and some relationships will not survive that test. Arguably these relationships might have fallen apart on a different occasion for a different reason just as likely tho.
² It would still be better to see him in the flesh more than once every two years or so tho, but it does not hurt the friendship one bit, we have enough shared memories for a lifetime.
Re: Ask HN: Are we all burned out?
#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem with in person community is typically not that we cannot become part of one, the problem is that we don't want to sacrifice our individualistic urges as we would have to, if we seriously became part of a collective. To many of us believe we can live the individualistic dream and be part of a collective without subtracting from either one. This is not possible. Being part of a collective often means we can…
> we don't want to sacrifice our individualistic urges as we would have to, if we seriously became part of a collective Why has this changed?
So leaving that community was not something people easily did. But they did, because of resources and money, people migrated from their rural communities into the cities, families torn apart, the industrialization brought with it a faster flow of information. People got to know the world outside of their communities and realized that they liked it more. So instead of huge family clans we had small atomic families now, with grandparents living in their own atomic household, often somewhere else. Young people who went to find themselves in the cities lived alone or in loose collectives or flat shares with strangers (usually with the goal to get your own thing as quick as possible).
In western societies that new freedom and individualism then (like so much else) got hijacked by capitalism. Ten people living together only need one hairdrier, ten people living seperated need ten hairdriers (insert any other appliance/product you can think of here). People living alone is good for capitalism, which is why it has been marketed as a dream. Be yourself! Fuck the others! Get your own hairdrier! Live alone and die alone!
Like fish in water we internalized these values so much, that we don't question them. In the US especially those values have become architecture to a degree, your literal world took the shape of this individualism [insert suburbia.gif] – how to start living a collective life in a individualistic environment, where without your personal movable 8m² of space you are cut off from any meaningful function society provides you with?
Especially in the US people live in spaces that favour individualism to such an degree it is the simple comfortable default. If you want to change that you have to work against the forces that exist.
Re: Ask HN: Are we all burned out?
#145> All I want to do is look at my phone and consume more content This will contribute to and/or perpetuate your burnout. If you're overwhelmed and burned out, the last thing you need is to spend more time in front of screens and more time consuming endless streams of content. News content and outrage bait is especially bad at burning people out. It's easy to spend 30 minutes on Reddit or Twitter and feel like the worl…
Yea but that doesn’t solve the problem that the world IS crumbling around us. Putin is backed into a corner, how does that not end in WW3 if we continue on this path?
- Join a gym
- Buy a bycicle
- Move to another city
- Get a new job with 20% salary increase
- City services finally covered that hole in my street after 3 months
(ie anything)
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#146Re: Ask HN: Are we all burned out?
#147I'm having the time of my life. No joke! What I've learned in the several decades of life I've lived so far is that your mood day to day is almost entirely dependent on how you interpret the narrative of your life, not what is actually happening. You mention "having a kid, covid, war, etc." But what else is happening in your life? It's impossible that every waking moment is 100% consumed by kids/wars/disease/economic…
Re: Ask HN: Are we all burned out?
#148Now I am the founder of a non-profit and despite taking a much lower salary, working many more hours and feeling much more stress, I have become a very happy and fulfilled person.
Once the center of your life revolves around helping others, rather than yourself, it becomes a lot easier to endure all the crap life throws at you.
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Our parents had tough times, and their parents had tough times, and so on throughout history. US baby boomers had the best luck to be born in a time of massive prosperity, and opportunities have been steadily declining since then. My father didn't go to college and worked construction. He didn't own the company, just manual labor. He could pay the mortgage on a nice house in the suburbs and support a family on one…
My parents were not “US boomers” Not everyone on HN is from the US.
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#150We muddled through all that and got to the financial crash of 2008. Again many people lost their jobs, lost their homes and pretty much lost hope. Then things went well for quite a while and now here we are again.
Notice a pattern? You can bank on things going tits up every 10-15 years or so. The maddening thing is people overall seem content with this situation.
Do you need therapy? It never hurts. Really. Even if you're A-OK it never hurts to have some therapy. Think of your therapist as being your wingman to help you deal with the shit of modern life. Group therapy is even better because you get to hear other people struggling with the same things you are. I know they say misery loves company but it's really more than that - it's the realization you're not alone and you're not the only one feeling like this and struggling with these issues. It's actually very uplifting.
Good luck!