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Re: Ask HN: How do you get side gigs?

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It's almost like a full job interview process with many parts. Keeping details minimal because of NDA, I had 3 "rounds" including online assessment and video interviews.

Do you still have to go through interviews with clients? If so, how onerous are those?

I do, it really depends on the client. I like working with small businesses and most of those are just a quick conversation about what they're looking for.

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Toptal.com. Pain in the ass evaluation process, but it's worthwhile to get through.

I heard a number of complains that Toptal is not worth the time investment anymore. Anybody of that opinion here?

When I started the process years ago, I only saw bad things about Toptal. Went through anyways and have only good things to say. The most vocal are always the negative, and a lot of them were people who never got through the selection process. YMMV, but my experience is positive.

Re: Ask HN: How do you get side gigs?

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Toptal.com. Pain in the ass evaluation process, but it's worthwhile to get through.

I interviewed there and they gave me a big project that would have taken several days to complete. Call me arrogant, but I couldn't work for free like that. Additionally all the interviewers were from extremely low cost of living countries, whereas I live in one of the highest cost of living areas in the US. I had the impression that you have to bid yourself down to catch work over there due to that discrepancy. Ther…

They give you a project that's supposed to take 8 hours, with a loose definition so you can take your own approach to it. Having been through the process, the project is definitely not something they'd take and use for themselves, it's a really basic test of aptitude.

Re: Ask HN: How do you get side gigs?

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It's almost like a full job interview process with many parts. Keeping details minimal because of NDA, I had 3 "rounds" including online assessment and video interviews.

Jeez. Which networks still exist that do not require this large upfront timesuck (regardless of how well it may filter candidates)?

I'd say all in all I put maybe 10 hours into it, which is far less than I do for a typical job interview prep. Given that this has brought me numerous clients, it was worth it for me.

Re: Ask HN: How do you get side gigs?

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I have this problem too. I made

https://polyfill.work

to try to solve it (I enter my preferences and get notified when there’s a matching job.) It’s still a work in progress though.

Something I’ve found that works quite well is contacting developers I used to work with to see if they need any help.

Re: Ask HN: How do you get side gigs?

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Make sure it's something you really want to do since it may consume all of your free-time for weeks or months at a time. Don't be me.. Midway through my career I was given a golden opportunity to side-gig consult for a project that could have launched a consulting business. Instead, after an excellent presentation and client interest -- I laid out some numbers that were very high. You see, I had (and still have) a ve…

For anyone who doesn't want to repeat this experience: you can almost always come down in cost, by also coming down in scope -- and retain your hourly rate.

I can't speak to the project above, but typically starting with a smaller-scoped project at the original high rate is a good way for both sides to evaluate whether the relationship is working without a huge commitment.

Re: Ask HN: How do you get side gigs?

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Toptal.com. Pain in the ass evaluation process, but it's worthwhile to get through.

I heard a number of complains that Toptal is not worth the time investment anymore. Anybody of that opinion here?

I'm billing $100+/hr with Toptal. I'm currently 0 hours available and they check on my availability every week with possible contracts.

Yes, the interview process is a bit long, but opportunities have been non-stop for several years in a row now.

Never an issue with pay, although it can border on 6 weeks in arrears due to billing cycles with the client and bi-weekly deposits from Toptal.

Re: Ask HN: How do you get side gigs?

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Side gigs don't really earn much. If you've got a friend that you've worked with before and they have a startup or something, ask for some peanuts amount of equity as an hands on advisor. It'll do more for your CV than 20 hour side gigs glueing some libraries together. Or pick a well known library / framework and contribute. Or rescue a "looking for [co-]maintainer" library out there.

I am curious about the impact of being an advisor on a CV. Could you share what it's done for you?

I'd prefer to keep my CV off of HN. It's a bit spicy.

That said, the peak I've pulled down as a SRE is a total comp of CAD$600k a year and I'm presently a CTO of a barely-in-the-media startup.

I'm doing ok.

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