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Ask HN: Has Google search become quantitatively worse?

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Re: Ask HN: Has Google search become quantitatively worse?

#141
I don't think Google got worse, there are always a few issues with an argument "Google got worse"

Which search result is worse compared to "the time Google was good"? We need solid examples, which is usually extremely hard to find on HN threads such as these. Even the parent does not have a single good example.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search become quantitatively worse?

#142
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The results keep getting "refined" so as to suit the popular 80% of queries, while getting much worse for any technical or obscure queries. Forced synonyms and "people also searched for" are typically useless and almost infuriating. Once you get off the first or second page, the results get even worse-- with pages entirely unrelated to the query (e.g. not even containing the searched phrases). They are probably testi…

Let's expand the scope too.

Try searching for any product outside your wheelhouse and it quickly devolves into an undergrad research endeavor.

I can't trust the first or second page results because of SEO. Then every page after quickly veers off topic or just features sites that aren't as good at SEO.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search become quantitatively worse?

#146
it's a SEO / blog spammers paradise, with terrible results, designed to drive usage of AdWords

Now that YouTube has gotten rid of dislikes expect YouTube to go down the same path. There will be more trash content and you'll only know once you watch the video (comments can be deleted).

YT injects ads in front of unmonetized videos now, so they'll have bigger metrics for engagement and make more $$ on pre-roll ads.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search become quantitatively worse?

#147
post #9

The results keep getting "refined" so as to suit the popular 80% of queries, while getting much worse for any technical or obscure queries. Forced synonyms and "people also searched for" are typically useless and almost infuriating. Once you get off the first or second page, the results get even worse-- with pages entirely unrelated to the query (e.g. not even containing the searched phrases). They are probably testi…

I've thought about it and I think that the really infuriating thing is that somehow the program wrongly assumes that I made a typo, so it's wrong and telling me that I'm wrong. No! It's you!! You're wrong!!!

DDG is heading this wrong direction too. Today I've searched for some ecommerce platform called Comerzzia and it showed me some Comerzia or Comercia or whatever shops near me. It shows maps if it thinks they're related and apparently I can't disable that feature.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search become quantitatively worse?

#148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I cannot stress enough how infuriating it is when a page loads content under my mouse cursor at such a delay that I can manage to point at a link and click on it _before_ the new content is loaded so that I click/tap an unexpected link. This happens _all_ the time on the Twitter app search bar.

This is infuriating on all UIs, but I haven't seen one that would implement a very obvious solution: if the area around click has changed in 100ms before the event, disregard the click. Either a webpage or a browser could do that. I'm sure I'm not the first one to think of it, so there must be some reason why it isn't done - does anyone know why?

Yes, because it sux, in general. Maybe as an option.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search become quantitatively worse?

#149

Everytime one of these threads show up, I find myself wondering why someone doesn't launch a technical and research focused competitor. There seems to be such broad agreement that Google is now terrible for research that there's for sure a market for it. Edit: I'd love to see a some-of-the-web search engine like this. Start just with university sites, prepress archives, quality forums, public dev Slacks, etc.

Not only that, we just need one that works the way Google used to work. You know, something like the old algorithm that made Google famous and made competitors obsolete.

That old algorithm would just hand you a bunch of SEO spam.
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