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Ask HN: Who doesn’t want to go back to the office?

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Re: Ask HN: Who doesn’t want to go back to the office?

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Things I have avoided over the past year: wearing uncomfortable clothes, being unable to use a restroom because it’s occupied, sweating from the heater, shivering from the AC, being held hostage by coworkers who talk at me about their personal lives and grievances, unpleasant noises, unpleasant smells, being asked trivial questions, the drama of coworkers who can’t behave professionally, ugly decor, uncomfortable sea…

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Re: Ask HN: Who doesn’t want to go back to the office?

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post #137

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>> HR nagging people because they left books on their desk You just reminded me one more reason for me not to return office - we have policy that when leaving for the day employees must remove all extra items [ ] from the desk and put that into personal cabinet. extra items - everything apart from phone, display and keyboard + mouse.

Was that pre-pandemic or just a temporary policy to make things easier for cleaners in the evening?

In one workplace of mine was because the office was built deliberately with glass walls, so any random visitor would see everyone working.

So HR wanted the tables looking always pristine and organized, shockingly the team that made the company most of their money, made a cool castle using tictac boxes, and HR during a performance review gave that particular team a smaller raise than planned, and told them it was about of the "objects in the table looking unprofessional", when they asked if it was the castle, HR comfirmed yes, it was the castle, and they would get further punishments and maybe even refused promotions if they didn't put the castle in the trash.

EDIT: I wasn't part of that team. Only thing I left on my table was books.

Re: Ask HN: Who doesn’t want to go back to the office?

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Your coworkers are not your family, unless they are literally your family business. Most people don't learn this lesson till the first layoff and they watch those warm and friendly relationships sublimate in an instant.

> Most people don't learn this lesson till the first layoff You hit the nail on the head. While I definitely feel for all the early-career folks out there who are genuinely missing out on the camaraderie of working together, I urge all of you not to fall into the trap of thinking that your employment relationship is anything more than mercenary. They will cut you without a moment's hesitation. Buying into the "we're…

> makes you dependent on them

I strongly encourage every one I know to prevent this through continuous learning, skill acquisition and savings. Take it from one who is somewhat dependent. Work toward financial independence not for the goal of 'retiring' (aka doing nothing all day) but the goal of not having to do a job you don't want to do. In my mind, that is what it means to be financially independent.

Re: Ask HN: Who doesn’t want to go back to the office?

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I try and stick to 25 min focused work, 5 min of whatever, repeat.

That always feel so unrealistic to me. Do you guys really feel recharged after a 5 minute break? Thats just enough to visit the toilet and get a drink. It would mean you are focused 7 hours out of 8. Seems very unrealistic to me.

It doesn't work for me. Either than 5 min break comes too early or late.

Re: Ask HN: Who doesn’t want to go back to the office?

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I may be the malcontent, but I'm tired of being at home. I want to keep the option of being at home, but I miss the community I found at work, I miss the non-work adventures our team had, and frankly, I think the new folks joining our teams are not nearly as integrated into our family as those of that came before the pandemic. I've worked remote for a decade and the option to work remote for 2ish days a week makes li…

I want the option of going in to the office when I want.

Re: Ask HN: Who doesn’t want to go back to the office?

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post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> HR nagging people because they left books on their desk You just reminded me one more reason for me not to return office - we have policy that when leaving for the day employees must remove all extra items [ ] from the desk and put that into personal cabinet. extra items - everything apart from phone, display and keyboard + mouse.

Was that pre-pandemic or just a temporary policy to make things easier for cleaners in the evening?

Pre-pandemic policy for more efficient utilization of office space.

Reasoning: it's never the case that 100% of staff is in the office - there's always be someone on sick leave or vacation or working from home. So let's rent office for say ~90% (I don't know what exact number was) of employees and let them use places on first in-first served basis.

While I get why it's needed by it's still very annoying carrying all my stuff back and forth every morning and evening.

Re: Ask HN: Who doesn’t want to go back to the office?

#147

Firstly, I won't be convinced that we've beaten the pandemic and recovered until we get through a major holiday without a surge. If we make it through January after both Thanksgiving & Christmas/New Year's (with all of the travel and open-for-business states) without a 5th wave (or whatever the next surge is by then), I'll finally start relaxing and think about going back to the office on some sort of schedule. Until…

If you're personally vaccinated it kind of doesn't matter if there's another wave amongst the unvaccinated, no? Plus tech workers probably have a 90% Vax rate.

Re: Ask HN: Who doesn’t want to go back to the office?

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I really enjoy office culture when you have a good set of people, but it gets distracting from actual work. That being said the real detractors to office life for me are having to commute and any sense of being geographically bound in order to be near the office. So the compromise is every other week I go to a coworking space where I know the regulars.

Re: Ask HN: Who doesn’t want to go back to the office?

#149

I don't want to go back, I can get my day job done in Do your tasks in as little time as it takes leaving more room for leisure, this is the first time I'm feeling the benefits of that 'increased productivity per hour'[1] economists talk about. [1] https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/exports/labor-productivit...

I feel like most companies just give you more work when you finish early. They want your at you desk for x hours in exchange for a salary.

Correction: minimum X hours

Re: Ask HN: Who doesn’t want to go back to the office?

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post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was that pre-pandemic or just a temporary policy to make things easier for cleaners in the evening?

In one workplace of mine was because the office was built deliberately with glass walls, so any random visitor would see everyone working. So HR wanted the tables looking always pristine and organized, shockingly the team that made the company most of their money, made a cool castle using tictac boxes, and HR during a performance review gave that particular team a smaller raise than planned, and told them it was abou…

I can't fathom why and how any company owners would allow HR departments to wield such power.
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