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Re: Ask HN: What should I tell my cousin who wants to go to a “coding boot camp”?

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Post by mhenr18 »

grzm wrote: post #122
mhenr18 wrote: post #83

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No. At least in my country, all of the ways that females can be discriminated against in the workforce that are usually brought up are illegal. (Pay gaps for the same work, promotions, sexual harassment, etc) Yet people still complain they are problems. At this point, the onus is not on the rest of society to continue to try and make things easier for literally more than half the population. The onus is on the people…

At least in my country, all of the ways that females can be discriminated against in the workforce that are usually brought up are illegal. For the sake of comparison, what country are you referring to?

Australia. It's all covered under the Sex Discrimination Act.

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/our-work/sex-discrimination/p...

Re: Ask HN: What should I tell my cousin who wants to go to a “coding boot camp”?

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DanBC wrote: post #131
dominotw wrote: post #112

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> http://www.womeninmining.org/ thats not a site for women * struggling for the right to work in coal mining*, contrast that to womenwhocode.

https://www.womeninmining.org.uk/ > WIM (UK) is a non-profit organisation dedicated to promoting and progressing the development of women in the mining and minerals sector. > Created in 2006, WIM (UK) now counts over 1,500 members, from all corners of mining-related businesses and professions.

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Re: Ask HN: What should I tell my cousin who wants to go to a “coding boot camp”?

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DanBC wrote: post #131
dominotw wrote: post #112

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> http://www.womeninmining.org/ thats not a site for women * struggling for the right to work in coal mining*, contrast that to womenwhocode.

https://www.womeninmining.org.uk/ > WIM (UK) is a non-profit organisation dedicated to promoting and progressing the development of women in the mining and minerals sector. > Created in 2006, WIM (UK) now counts over 1,500 members, from all corners of mining-related businesses and professions.

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Re: Ask HN: What should I tell my cousin who wants to go to a “coding boot camp”?

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Post by dominotw »

DanBC wrote: post #131
dominotw wrote: post #112

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> http://www.womeninmining.org/ thats not a site for women * struggling for the right to work in coal mining*, contrast that to womenwhocode.

https://www.womeninmining.org.uk/ > WIM (UK) is a non-profit organisation dedicated to promoting and progressing the development of women in the mining and minerals sector. > Created in 2006, WIM (UK) now counts over 1,500 members, from all corners of mining-related businesses and professions.

>Mining is dominated by men. A survey by Women in Mining found that 12 per cent of executives in the industry were female and that, without intervention.

executives. no one wants to inhale coal dust, i suppose.

Re: Ask HN: What should I tell my cousin who wants to go to a “coding boot camp”?

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Post by slededit »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #124
OJFord wrote: post #97

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> Be glad you haven't suffered it for literally your entire life. I am. I'm young enough, though, that I'm acutely aware that the roles are going to be completely reversed for men not that much younger. I've been unable to attend technical talks at my university that sounded interesting, because they're 'women-only'. There are exclusive events, clubs, networking for women - but of course there aren't equivalents for…

My car pulls to the right slightly, I turn the steering wheel slightly to the left to adjust. We do that in society, folks start to complain. I have to suspect they're not out to fix society, but rather to preserve their good position in it.

Or instead of a band-aide solution you could just get an alignment and solve the underlying issue.

Re: Ask HN: What should I tell my cousin who wants to go to a “coding boot camp”?

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Post by mannykannot »

Kluny wrote: post #129
mannykannot wrote: post #43

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"One already had a degree in software engineering..." There's a whole other issue right there.

You can conclude whatever you want from it, but in this case the gentleman in question had a good government job with the Department of Fisheries and Oceans, where he still works, as far as I know. He left his job temporarily to take a 2-year programming diploma on top of his software engineering degree. I don't think he did it to get a job since he already had one. It was more that his whole department was on the ch…

Sorry, I was not being clear - I wasn't thinking of sexism, but what a person with a software engineeing degree was doing at a programming boot camp. I realize that software engineering is not programming, but if the term has any meaning, I would expect anyone with such a degree to know enough about what it takes to make software as to be able to pick up common languages by self-study. Your reply hints that his attendance at boot camp might be as much about certification and documented hands-on experience as education.

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Post by trymas »

nip wrote: post #93
trymas wrote: post #65

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I could not resist... but do you want to confuse her with python2 vs python3? When python2 should be out of the question, even if it's default on macOS. Though to be fair the difference should be learned, but it shouldn't be promoted to learn python2 for beginners. It will just confuse them. Even though many years have passed, but I think soon many libraries and frameworks will not support python2 at all (e.g. Django…

Your remarks are extremely sound. The good news is that LPTHW is now Python 3[1] :) [1] https://learnpythonthehardway.org/python3/

That's good news. Though it's still not complete

Before in examples there were stuff like this:

    $ python -V
    Python 2.5.x

Re: Ask HN: What should I tell my cousin who wants to go to a “coding boot camp”?

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Post by Kluny »

mannykannot wrote: post #146
Kluny wrote: post #129

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You can conclude whatever you want from it, but in this case the gentleman in question had a good government job with the Department of Fisheries and Oceans, where he still works, as far as I know. He left his job temporarily to take a 2-year programming diploma on top of his software engineering degree. I don't think he did it to get a job since he already had one. It was more that his whole department was on the ch…

Sorry, I was not being clear - I wasn't thinking of sexism, but what a person with a software engineeing degree was doing at a programming boot camp. I realize that software engineering is not programming, but if the term has any meaning, I would expect anyone with such a degree to know enough about what it takes to make software as to be able to pick up common languages by self-study. Your reply hints that his atten…

Ah, I see. Yes, you're right. I wondered what he was doing there myself. The "keeping my government job" story was reasonable, but you'd think he could have found a private industry job easily enough.
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