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Documentary photography. It is in large part about social skills: getting access, asking questions, talking people in, negotiating through police fences etc. Something totally opposite to my dayjob.

Do you do this for yourself or for a second employer? Is it mostly social engineering or just being very steadfast? I'd love to know more about it.

Aside for a short stint with an agency in 2006, I do everything for myself. Photojournalism is a tough area, with opportunities shrinking, and (if you can afford it) it is best to do the work which genuinely interests you than pick up marginal assignments. Remember, old press is dying, new one is not anywhere in sight :)

One thing to distinguish is long-term, documentary work and current events. The latter is basically reportage, the bread and butter of news agencies and newspapers. On the former though, you can choose your ground and take your time.

I start a project with pulling all information I can from the web: saves time on the ground. Names, history, maps, prior works in this area. If necessary finding the initial contacts. Over there, it's approaching people, asking questions (not necessarily identifying yourself as a photographer), you can get a lot of context just from casual chit-chat. Good thing is that most people love being heard, so give them all attention you can. Start a neutral conversation, listen, nod, let them pour out: very few people are generous listeners, so your attention will be appreciated and you can ask the questions you want afterward.

In case of hot events, various police and security troops are a major challenge and great test of your social skills. There it's best if you can start small, attending fenced but calm events, just to get the gist of unspoken rules, protocols and routines. Obviously you can't generalize this worldwide, but. Be attentive, observe police, observe protesters or other people interacting with law enforcement, see how much can work with them. Read faces, in case of militias face is a good indicator how much problem you are going to have with a given person. If he looks like a scumbag he probably is. There are weak points in most of cordons and often ways to sneak past fences. It is best if you stay calm, neutral, and project confidence; especially confident, you can pull nearly Jedi-like tricks with it. Do not insist on eye contact but do not avoid it either. Don't smile, it shows your weakness and reduces your chances to successfully communicating with people in power dramatically.

It may sound hard but the skills build up quickly once you start doing.

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So you hate video games for the same reason theatergoers hate the cinema at the turn of the century. You hate the current offering rather than the medium itself.

Video games suck up lots of time and leave you with nothing when you're done. Two hours spent bickering on IRC or Hacker News at least teaches you things. I'm not sure if that's exactly what mahmud said, but that's my reasoning, and I thought his was close to mine.

So you don't watch movies, either? Or read books? Two hours of time in which you learn nothing?

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Video games suck up lots of time and leave you with nothing when you're done. Two hours spent bickering on IRC or Hacker News at least teaches you things. I'm not sure if that's exactly what mahmud said, but that's my reasoning, and I thought his was close to mine.

So you don't watch movies, either? Or read books? Two hours of time in which you learn nothing?

I definitely watch movies and read book, but I feel like I come away from them with something, unlike with video games.

I get that some people do feel like they get something out of playing video games, and I'm not indicting them.

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So you don't watch movies, either? Or read books? Two hours of time in which you learn nothing?

I definitely watch movies and read book, but I feel like I come away from them with something, unlike with video games. I get that some people do feel like they get something out of playing video games, and I'm not indicting them.

It's a matter of playing the right games. I tend to play shorter arthouse games. Braid, Blueberry Garden, Everyday Shooter, and its kin.

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Rugby. Any adversity you encounter in day-to-day startup operations doesn't seem as bad as when it's compared with getting pummeled by Aussie and UK ex-pats.

league, or union?

Union. To my knowledge it's all there is in the Vancouver area.

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Documentary photography. It is in large part about social skills: getting access, asking questions, talking people in, negotiating through police fences etc. Something totally opposite to my dayjob.

How does one get in touch with documentary filmmakers and photographers to get them a scoop?

Cannot speak with authority here. If your lead is of importance to big global or regional events, a best bet would be approaching someone from a news agency. One place to find those folk is lightstalkers.org, although it is by no means comprehensive.

For local news, try starting with the best newspaper in your area. Editorial contacts is usually listed in paper's exit data, sometimes along with a contact for tips.

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Anything to look at on the web? I have a lot of respect for people going into the trenches.

Let's see.. here are couple of shots from post-elections protests in Minsk, Belarus, March 2006. The night when results were announced. People look happy but really they were not, just reacting to a sarcastic joke off the stage. For whatever reason, this photo ended all over Chinese blogs in 2007, captioned as "people rejoicing New Year". http://www.thespiderawards.com/2007presentation/photoshow/no... Paramedics work…

I like it - don't underestimate the interest, for me it is pictures from far away :-)
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