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Re: Ask HN: How can I get up early in the morning?

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Post by bkudria » Sat, Mar 21, 2009, 8:53 PM UTC

niels_olson wrote: post #55

pg wrote: post #8

Go to bed earlier at night.

To go to bed earlier 1) get up earlier 2) You can only shift your schedule about 1 hour per day. You can try shifting it more, but you're going to have sweater-head, nausea and hot flashes. If you go from getting up at 11 to getting up at 5, expect five days of feeling like crap. 3) The pineal gland is activated by light incident on the retina. So calculate when you need to go to sleep based on when you get up, and s…

Wait, what? Plato is definitely heavy reading, and worth your full conscious attention! Don't waste Plato by reading him when you're about to fall asleep!

Re: Ask HN: How can I get up early in the morning?

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Post by bkudria » Sat, Mar 21, 2009, 8:58 PM UTC

Kaizyn wrote: post #102

DenisM wrote: post #67

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I think you just lost your right to complain about comments that are shallow, flippant and/or do not bring any useful knowledge or argument to the table. Sleep is a serious subject with many intricacies and hacking one's sleep can have far-reaching consequences. By reducing it to a short soundbite you set out a bad example, and it will be followed with zeal - already it's been modded to 55. Sad.

Actually, the question has a simple and correct answer which is what PG provided. Just because sleep is a serious matter does not mean the advice/answer to the question must be complicated.

Simple and correct, sure but not helpful.

Answering the question is one thing, fostering good discussion is another. To foster discussion, both parties should understand each other. To help understanding, a question should not only be answered, but explained. An explanation is more helpful than a straight answer.

Make sense?

Re: Ask HN: How can I get up early in the morning?

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Post by ninguem2 » Sat, Mar 21, 2009, 9:21 PM UTC

nitrogen wrote: post #117

tptacek wrote: post #39

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Can I slaughter and eat it?

I wouldn't recommend it -- from what I've heard, rooster meat is really tough.

You have to boil the shit out of it. Try Coq au Vin.

Re: Ask HN: How can I get up early in the morning?

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Post by yters » Sat, Mar 21, 2009, 9:43 PM UTC

niels_olson wrote: post #80

yters wrote: post #60

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I don't know what Plato you've read. Most of his dialogues are very dense.

It's all a matter of context. The New England Journal of Medicine makes the Symposium read like Tom Clancy.

If by dense you mean a lot of technical words and concepts, then yes. If by dense you mean deep insights into reality, then no.

Re: Ask HN: How can I get up early in the morning?

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Post by niels_olson » Sun, Mar 22, 2009, 2:22 AM UTC

bkudria wrote: post #131

niels_olson wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To go to bed earlier 1) get up earlier 2) You can only shift your schedule about 1 hour per day. You can try shifting it more, but you're going to have sweater-head, nausea and hot flashes. If you go from getting up at 11 to getting up at 5, expect five days of feeling like crap. 3) The pineal gland is activated by light incident on the retina. So calculate when you need to go to sleep based on when you get up, and s…

Wait, what? Plato is definitely heavy reading, and worth your full conscious attention! Don't waste Plato by reading him when you're about to fall asleep!

Never worry about wasting the great books just because you're not reading them between 9 am and 1 pm in a sunlit alcove with two friends (or some other highly optimized conditions). If it's that great, suboptimal conditions don't matter.

Re: Ask HN: How can I get up early in the morning?

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Post by thenduks » Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 5:33 PM UTC

boundlessdreamz wrote: post #123

thenduks wrote: post #75

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Unfortunately I sometimes wake up with no alarm going off, think to myself "hmm, where's the alarm? what time is it?", look at the clock and realize that it's 4 hours later than I intended and the alarm has been turned off. Since I have no recollection of turning off the alarm, it isn't really a matter of discipline :( Edit: Of course, I'm not suggesting that this is a deal breaker, or that I've 'given up', just that…

that's the case with me too. I can talk sense even while I'm fast asleep.

I once got up, ready, into the elevator, down to the street, bought a coffee and took a sip, looked around (dark, busy intersection not so busy), swore and then went back to bed. As far as I know I was totally coherent the whole time to everyone around (wife, doorman, coffee-shop-girl, etc).

Stress factors a lot into it for me. If I'm having a good week hardly anything strange happens in my sleep.

Re: Ask HN: How can I get up early in the morning?

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Post by JeffL » Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 11:28 PM UTC

kingkongrevenge wrote: post #30

There's no reason to get up early in the morning. This is one of those things like marathon running and vegetarianism. For totally irrational reasons people think they're doing something worthwhile just because doing it sucks.

I think you might be right, but I do wonder. Has anyone seen any scientific evidence one way or the other?

Re: Ask HN: How can I get up early in the morning?

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Post by ralph » Sat, May 16, 2009, 4:51 PM UTC

eru wrote: post #89

massa wrote: post #35

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My case is the exact opposite: I have a late-rising espouse and two kids (10 and 3). The younger one wakes at 6am and I have to take care of her. :-P

We don't have kids, yet. My fiancée just nags me until I get up.

As someone who has to nag someone else to wake up and get up, can I just say how disruptive it is to what I'm trying to do. Instead of concentrating I'm constantly checking back to see if they need another nag. So the sleeper isn't just consuming their own time, they're affecting the quality of mine too.