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Ask HN: Go deep into AI/LLMs or just use them as tools?

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Re: Ask HN: Go deep into AI/LLMs or just use them as tools?

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Post by xiphias2 »

lelanthran wrote: post #116
xiphias2 wrote: post #6

It's your choice, but it's definitely not ,,just another tool''. Most of my LLMs made lots of mistakes, but Codex with $200 subscription changed my workflow totally, and now I'm having 40 pull requests/day merged. Treat LLMs as interns, increase your test coverage with them to the point that they can't ruin your codebase and get really good at reviewing code and splitting tasks up to smaller digestible ones, and prom…

I'm sceptical of 40 PRs per day. In an 8 hour workday you are merging one new PR every 12 minutes? I'm very sceptical that anyone can review a significant chunk of code that fast, unless these are all one and two liners that pass review on the first go. In this best case scenario, where no review results in reworking the PR, and you can review and merge every 12 minutes, without any breaks of any sort, why is your re…

It's not 8 hour work day, I just did it all day long from waking up to sleeping. And of course it contains lots of corrections. sometimes it's 30 lines with some bug that I see, then I ask codex to fix the bug in a separate pull request. It's an open source web framework I have been working on ( https://github.com/adamritter/pageql).

To tell you the truth it slowed down yesterday as most of the features were done and I had to fix memory/signal/callback leaks, but even that was done much faster than if I did it by hand.

I had done coding on my phone while buying flowers in a gardening store, in my bed waking up without getting out my laptop etc... so yeah, it's not for those people who take the 8 hour work day strictly.

Re: Ask HN: Go deep into AI/LLMs or just use them as tools?

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Post by jimbokun »

diggan wrote: post #78
mindcrime wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, in the worst case scenario we wind up with basically nobody having jobs. I mean, when humanoid robots get sufficient dexterity, they can even come for the skilled trades folks as well, as far as that goes. Look, I don't know if any of this is actually going to to come to pass or not. But it seems at least a little bit less like pure sci-fi now than it did a decade or two ago. Anyway, if we play along with the th…

> in the worst case scenario we wind up with basically nobody having jobs Call me optimistic or whatever, but isn't that the best case scenario? If having a full-time job is basically just for the 0.1% or whatever, then we must have figured out a different way of distributing goods and solving peoples needs, that doesn't involve "trading time for money" (a job), and that sounds like it can be a good thing, not "worst…

Or we just have the vast majority of people homeless and starving and helpless against the robot armies.

Re: Ask HN: Go deep into AI/LLMs or just use them as tools?

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Post by speakfreely »

bloppe wrote: post #62

AI is a scientific discipline. Software development is an engineering discipline. Do you like science? Then dive deep into LLMs. Be ready for science, though. It involves shooting a thousand shots in the dark until you discover something new. That's how science gets done. I respect it, but I personally don't love doing it. Do you like engineering? That's when you approach a problem and can reason about a number of po…

This makes frontier research sound very similar to gambling. Any correlation in personality types?

Re: Ask HN: Go deep into AI/LLMs or just use them as tools?

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Post by aryehof »

WA wrote: post #14

To piggyback on this discussion, what do you all think about option 3: Work for companies (as a consultant?) to help them implement LLMs/AI into their traditional processes?

Aren’t most traditional business processes entirely deterministic and better suited to traditional data processing methods?

Re: Ask HN: Go deep into AI/LLMs or just use them as tools?

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Post by diggan »

jimbokun wrote: post #132
diggan wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> in the worst case scenario we wind up with basically nobody having jobs Call me optimistic or whatever, but isn't that the best case scenario? If having a full-time job is basically just for the 0.1% or whatever, then we must have figured out a different way of distributing goods and solving peoples needs, that doesn't involve "trading time for money" (a job), and that sounds like it can be a good thing, not "worst…

Or we just have the vast majority of people homeless and starving and helpless against the robot armies.

Again, probably the optimist in my shining through, but hardship seems to (at least where I am) trigger people to react against it, and go out on the street to protests. Clearly, it isn't the case everywhere, but I do believe (or maybe hope) that if we ever get to that point, people won't give up until their life gets at least "Good Enough".

Re: Ask HN: Go deep into AI/LLMs or just use them as tools?

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Post by xiphias2 »

risyachka wrote: post #54
xiphias2 wrote: post #6

It's your choice, but it's definitely not ,,just another tool''. Most of my LLMs made lots of mistakes, but Codex with $200 subscription changed my workflow totally, and now I'm having 40 pull requests/day merged. Treat LLMs as interns, increase your test coverage with them to the point that they can't ruin your codebase and get really good at reviewing code and splitting tasks up to smaller digestible ones, and prom…

Ia this a personal project or prod startup with clients?

Personal

Re: Ask HN: Go deep into AI/LLMs or just use them as tools?

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Post by fructacean »

You can call it a bubble to the extent where only major competitors like OpenAI, Google, maybe even Anthropic (doubt it) will remain and lead the arms race. Their tools grow in power and soon will wipe out most of the AI startups but it's still important to understand how any of this works.
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