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Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by like_any_other »

spondylosaurus wrote: post #81
like_any_other wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if you think it’s bad for white men, just wait till you hear what it’s like for black women "Corporate America Promised to Hire a Lot More People of Color. It Actually Did. The year after Black Lives Matter protests, the S&P 100 added more than 300,000 jobs — 94% went to people of color." - https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2023-black-lives-matter-e... A BestBuy & McKinsey leadership program open only to non-white…

Yes, companies went out of their way to hire people of color... to rectify historical discrepancies. Also worth noting the original headline for your linked piece about Best Buy is "Best Buy, McKinsey partner to develop diverse leaders" (ah, the progressive radicals bringing down our country... McKinsey!) and your linked piece about the London transport team comes from some sensationalist outlet I've never heard of,…

> Yes, companies went out of their way to hire people of color... to rectify historical discrepancies.

Glad we could move on from "it's not happening" to "it's happening and it's a good thing" expediently.

> Not sure I trust that as an unbiased source.

The article you distrust links (at the start of the 2nd paragraph) to the official government website advertising that internship, which states, verbatim: "You must be of Black, Asian and minority ethnic background, defined as having some African, Afro-Caribbean, Asian or other non-white heritage"

https://web.archive.org/web/20231002080147/https://tfl.gov.u...

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by ajmurmann »

ajb wrote: post #49
theandrewbailey wrote: post #2

I've been out of a job for most of the past year. While sending Merry Christmas texts to my friends, I had a conversation with one (another programmer, different technologies and industry) where he revealed he was laid off last month. I keep applying for jobs, and recently accepted the possibility to relocate for an on site position (because staying where I am and hoping to get a remote position hasn't worked out). I…

And we see PG talking up H1B on twitter. I'd like to think that if he still read HN he might not do that. Really companies should be banned from importing more people[1] if they laid off a certain number in the last year. That way the job market would be more likely to self correct. [1] I think they should still be allowed to hire people who are already in the country on a visa, as it's unfair to make their risk of b…

IMO the main issue with H1B is that it makes it harder for them to move. This reduces their ability to negotiate salaries which ultimately drives the equilibrium price for everyone down.

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by ajmurmann »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #118
ajb wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And we see PG talking up H1B on twitter. I'd like to think that if he still read HN he might not do that. Really companies should be banned from importing more people[1] if they laid off a certain number in the last year. That way the job market would be more likely to self correct. [1] I think they should still be allowed to hire people who are already in the country on a visa, as it's unfair to make their risk of b…

An argument against not being allowed to import more people after layoffs (and it’s the one people like PG and Musk are making) is that the people who were laid off simply don’t have the skills required to allow companies to succeed. They need to import labor because the domestic labor pool isn’t good enough. A quieter part is that people immigrating also expect less for their outputs.

And once they are hear the H1B somewhat locks then into an employer gutter damping salaries

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by vbi8iBEX »

bdangubic wrote: post #111
w4ffl35 wrote: post #97

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globalization mate, globalization… there will never be a law in the US of A that prevents companies from finding cheap labor… more than a quarter (and ever growing) SWEs are no longer “on shore”

I am anti-globalization, and pro-America first.

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by vbi8iBEX »

krapp wrote: post #102
w4ffl35 wrote: post #97

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On what basis? There is no right to employment in the US Constitution, and companies are simply practicing good capitalism by purchasing the most effective workforce at the lowest cost from a global labor pool. If you want to live in a society where your life has value beyond that which a market rapidly converging on slave labor and AI can extract from you, I guess maybe move to a country where "socialism" isn't a di…

Bringing down the American economy when there is no shortage of American workers. I'm no advocate of socialism. And I'm anti-globalization.

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by missedthecue »

nicbou wrote: post #53
brtkdotse wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Fachkräftemangel Why is this German word thrown in without any explanation? I’ve noticed this is a common trend whenever a Germany-adjacent topic is discussed.

It was on everyone’s lips for a few years, to the point that it had become the placeholder for the entire meme. The short version is that there is a shortage of skilled workers that absolutely requires immigrants to fill the gaps. However when you look around there isn’t really a shortage; people just aren’t willing to work for little pay. The English term implies that there is an actual shortage. It might please you…

Does this imply that people would rather be broke than work for less pay than they want? How are they paying rent each month?

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by ajmurmann »

speakfreely wrote: post #105
vbi8iBEX wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like its a problem everywhere, not just the states.

Germany is facing more intense economic challenges than most.

Can someone explain why this is getting down votes? AFAIK it's true and relevant

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by w4ffl35 »

derektank wrote: post #104
w4ffl35 wrote: post #97

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Why, exactly? These companies have foreign customers, it seems reasonable to expect that they would also want to have foreign employees that can speak the language, work in the same time zone, etc. And the demand for those employees is unlikely to be perfectly commensurate with demand for US based employees at all times. Seems like a ban would be pretty destructive, even if some of this hiring is an attempt at offsho…

If a company is operating in a foreign nation sure. If a company is operating in America on American soil and refusing to hire Americans because they want to save a buck, they should face penalties. I do not see hiring foreigners as being pro-American.
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