Ask HN: How do you structure your shared finances with your spouse/partner
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Re: Ask HN: How do you structure your shared finances with your spouse/partner
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
How can you know if a HYSA makes sense if you don't know what the perks are for OP's bank beyond a safety deposit box? Premium checking accounts are niche products, but their perks can add up for the right person. OP might be getting a big discount on their mortgage interest and double the credit car points by maintaining that balance, which could greatly overshadow the (taxable) interest paid on a HYSA.
Let's say it's a whooping 2% That's a full $1,000 a year of taxable income. Anything less than five figures isn't worth a few hours of hassle. $50k liquid is better than 3 days to clear bank money.
I am familiar with the perks for BoA and they are not worth losing out on high yield interest at this range. If the reason is for safe deposit though (as the OP said) it is very much not worth it. (I can't find on google Fidelity perks easily, mortgage is the only one that could plausibly make sense, but I am skeptical of that.)
So my high yield is liquid, I can do large purchases on credit card and pay it off with high yield. It did only take a few hours to create the account for what it is worth, so again IMO worth it over parking a large sum of money in a checking.
Re: Ask HN: How do you structure your shared finances with your spouse/partner
#133This is how we do it:
We have a joint checking account, a joint savings account, and two individual checking accounts. There is a shared credit card, and both of our individual checking accounts have a card attached.
* Both our paychecks go directly into the joint checking account
* On the 14th and 28th, an automatic transfer moves an equal amount to both our individual checking accounts
* On the same cadence, an automatic transfer moves money from joint checking to our joint savings account
I used to keep track of everything in a spreadsheet that had all expected paycheck deposits and bill expenses plotted out for the year. It was great being able to see at a glance if the checking account was in danger of going in the red. Ultimately I moved to a double-entry system using hledger. It's a little less convenient for seeing future balances, but a whole lot more flexible.
Bills are paid from the joint checking (and the joint credit card). The money that trickles in to our individual checking accounts are ours to do with as we please (although we've agreed to maintain a minimum $1000 balance for emergencies and to avoid bank fees).
This works out great because we get autonomy over personal purchases, but also responsibility: If I want to buy a new laptop, I can do so without feeling guilty, but I also have to save for it -- just like when I was a kid. We can also fudge it using shared money when we want to, but we have to communicate and agree on it. And of course, any large shared purchases we talk about first.
Another reason we arrived at this arrangement was for security against identity theft and fraud. Early in our marriage, we did everything out of a single joint checking account that had a debit card attached. Inevitably, the card became compromised. We caught the issue quickly and alerted the bank, but there was about a week where our account was frozen and we couldn't touch our own money. Lesson learned: NEVER use a debit card with your main checking account.
In the current arrangement, our joint checking has no debit card attached. Our inididual accounts do have debit cards, but I made sure to tell the bank not to give those cards any access to the joint checking or savings accounts. If a card gets compromised, there's a limited amount of damage they can do, and it won't affect our paychecks coming in or bills going out.
Overall, I feel like we arrived at an elegant solution for our situation (no kids, neither of us are contractors). It doesn't matter who makes more, we both get the same allowance based on our combined efforts. Whatever arrangement you end up with, however, communication should be a key element.
Re: Ask HN: How do you structure your shared finances with your spouse/partner
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
We do something very similar. All pay goes into a joint account and all the bills and joint expenses come out of that one. We pay ourselves each an allowance that covers our personal spending. That's basically everything I spend money on by myself, so lunch out, treats, games whatever. I think its a really good way if avoiding any worry about "wasteful" spending. What we each value is different. If we need to tighten…
Can you explain how does "we don't need to fight over what specific spending is or isn't acceptable" works? do you simply cut the personal spending symmetrically?
Obviously join expenses like meals out would still need to be cut back too, but we're at least doing those together in the first place.
Re: Ask HN: How do you structure your shared finances with your spouse/partner
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe it was just the wording, but your gp post makes it sound like you didn't have any affection for your wife. What was her reaction? I wouldn't call this Machiavellian because Mach. was advising princes to act in opposition to their nature as a necessity for survival in the all out warfare of Italian city states. You however make it seem like you decided to have a layoff to get your household financial metrics in…
I have affection for them. And some of it's my fault for agreeing to things that I hoped I could do, like co-habiting, instead of things that I knew I liked, like living separately. The motivation is that I'm no longer yelled at by the person I love the most, who I'm supporting financially and emotionally. They were right about some things, my depression got to them, I probably should have left sooner, I probably sho…
This is what I was wondering, and why I suggested there might be some kind of emotional disorder involved. From your most recent post you sound completely normal, the marriage wasn't working out and you felt like it was hostile. This sounds like a pretty typical failed marriage.
From your original post, you simply said "Eventually I admitted I didn't want a partner who never had any income of their own." as the only motivation for why you divorced, and in your initial response you didn't seem to be surprised by my interpretation at all.
Thank you for tolerating my curiosity!
Re: Ask HN: How do you structure your shared finances with your spouse/partner
#136percentage goes to joint savings and living expenses go to joint checking.
rest is to do what we want.
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#137Re: Ask HN: How do you structure your shared finances with your spouse/partner
#138You probably don’t want simplicity.
You can roughly divide up the bills (either 50/50 or a split based on income) and have each person pay some of them so that the monthly spend is equitable.
If you actually want simplicity and one of you is a relatively high earner, that person just pays for everything.
Re: Ask HN: How do you structure your shared finances with your spouse/partner
#139We are both completely aware of each other's incomes and expenses (we maintain a common expense manager).
When we got married, there was an immense difference in our incomes (I earned 10x more than her), so we decided that I would bear all the expenses and she could save her income for her future business plans.
Since I left my job to focus full-time on my startup last year, our incomes have been almost equal. Now, I pay the rent and the bills, and she handles all other expenses (groceries, appliances, travel plans, gifting and other purchases).
We transfer money to each other's accounts whenever there is a need (it's mostly from her to mine). Transparency is the key to happiness here.