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Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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I don't have any idea why you think "a wife, kids" are out of the picture for you: after early adulthood, men and women are looking for someone they can see having a family with, and not for the more superfluous things in life (good looks, status or lots of money). At 43, having kids is harder for women, but usually not for men (well, at least making babies: bringing up kids does get a bit harder as you age regardles…

> At 43, having kids is harder for women, but usually not for men

Finding a partner becomes hard, especially if you expect her to be 5-10 years younger.

I used to be rather successful with women, was never single, always could find someone easily. I'm 45, in good shape with a good job, but it has became much harder.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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You are ready for a new chapter in your life. What would you like to do if there were no constraints? You have no obligations, you have no expectations to fulfill. What do you want to do, however unreasonable it seems to be?

If you want a more constrained approach:

> US$25k-equivalent in salary savings from a decade ago

> I am becoming more bitter, angry and disillusioned

Since you don't have to earn income immediately, you can do some volunteer stuff. Helping others should take care of the bitterness and the anger. The emptiness of disillusion will be filled with opportunities. On the days when you don't volunteer, do some sport because you will feel good.

Then, try some job, any job, to earn money and feel the monetary worthiness of your time. It will look good on your CV when you start applying for the jobs that you want.

Math hasn't changed. Brush it up and apply wherever you want.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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Not 40 but about to turn 37: I hired a personal trainer that I see twice a week with the goal of getting as strong as possible (not focusing on weight loss which I think is important).

The change in 6 months has been unbelievable. I have put on a ton of muscle, gained a ton of strength, my metabolic health is now PERFECT, and I have a ton of energy and vigor which is spilling over into the rest of my life.

Getting physically strong and fit is an incredible place to start when you're feeling directionless. And with a personal trainer all you have to do is show up for the session and do the work. If you can find someone who has a private studio that's even better (imo) because it takes away the whole gym culture aspect that can be intimidating.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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I too lost my dad almost 15 years ago, and was quite depressed both leading up and after.

At least for me, what helped was when I started being honest with myself, and I started to accept my limitations and to incorporate that into my planning.

I don't mean that in a "just give up" sort of way, but rather accept the limitations and find ways to work around those.

I also found some Meetup groups and attended free meetings/events. Some technical to learn and network, others like hiking and cycling to counteract the negative thoughts.

I still forget to be honest with myself from time to time, so every now and then I need to have a stern talk with myself to realign.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is therapy better in Germany? I live in Hamburg and the waiting list is more than a year for therapy. I was under the impression that it is somewhat faster in the US When I lived in the UK they wouldn’t offer me even a waiting list

Go private if you can afford it. NHS therapy in the U.K. is basically impossible to get for most people, but there are many, many good professional therapists charging £40-£60/hour. Once a week or fortnight, it’s worth it.

Unfortunately I live in Germany now where private therapists are far more expensive than that. More like 100 to 200 an hour. When I eventually return to the UK I won’t bother with the NHS again

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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post #29

You need to see a therapist. Your problem is largely on your outlook on where you are in life. This is not meant to be a buck up or shut up comment, it's just that you can't improve your life until you change your outlook on things. You won't be able to move forward on things until you confront your feelings and accept your position to move out of it. To answer your question, yes. My 30's were a mess with a divorce,…

I second that, I would suggest move to a larger city and get a job and therapist there (looks like the OP is from Germany, which I would personally prefer to US). And regarding to life goals, wife and kids in particular, although I have decided not to have a family, so take my advice with a grain of salt, but I think there are many single mothers out there who would appreciate a stable and solid partner with 2nd inco…

Regarding the last point, that's shooting pretty low imo. Definitely a range of women out there between 25-35 who might be a catch, you just don't want to be desperate first.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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First, let's ditch the idea of "prime of your life." If you assign some magical value to the years you have already spent, then it doesn't matter what you do from now on, those "best years" are always behind you. Poisonous thinking.

Yes, in our 20s and 30s we have lots of capabilities that we begin to lose when we are older. If someone told you that your younger years would be filled with something that it wasn't, then I'm sorry you were misled, but consider then that you have been misled about the limits of an "old man" at the ripe old age of 43.

It sounds like you beat yourself up for not magically teleporting yourself out of your present situation. You can't. You can grow into something new, but it takes patience. A few years is actually quite a long time, and a lot can happen in them. All you have to do is be consistent. I know that sounds hard. For constant procrastinators and self-deceivers like us (or at least like me), consistency is kryptonite!

I was very depressed for quite a while... divorced, unemployed, and alone in an unfamiliar city. I did two things that I credit with helping me find my way out. The first is, I wrote down several aspirational sentences. One was about the career I wanted. Another was about the relationship I wanted with a woman someday. Another was about the kind of dad I want to be. And the last was about the kind of human being I want to be. I wrote these down every single day. I tweaked them over time, and in so doing got a clearer picture of who I really am.

The second thing I did was be honest with myself every day about something I did that helped me get where I wanted to go with any of those things. Early on, I had to teach myself to take credit for what seemed like very small victories. If I wrote even one line of code, I counted it as a win. If I took a walk or otherwise got some exercise, that was a win. Going to places where I might be able to network was a win, even if I didn't actually connect with anyone. If I had even just an interaction with a woman who I found interesting, I counted it as a win.

What I learned was that I had no idea when things would happen, or how. Despite writing my statements down each day, I had a hard time seeing how I could find a partner in my situation. One day, I did. It was most unexpected, and I never saw it coming. But I think if I had not kept reminding myself what I wanted, I would not have gotten it.

My life is definitely not perfect, and there is much I still want to grow into to really live up to those statements. But I can point to some of it and be very proud now, and I can feel myself making progress towards what's missing.

Set your direction, and then learn to be happy with very slow and small steps, and eventually you'll find yourself taking giant ones in rapid succession. Good luck!

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

#138

This is above HN's paygrade. International Suicide Crisis Hotline directory: https://findahelpline.com/i/iasp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines If you are posting this kind of message on HN then you're at a point that you can call for a 1-1 chat. There are people who can listen. Don't rely on social media to do this.

Being unhappy with how your life is going doesn't equate to being suicidal.

> after being scared by my first real suicidal ideation a few nights ago.

While there is a lot of validity to asking others about their experience, there is also validity in speaking with a professional.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

#139
post #77

You need to see a therapist. Your problem is largely on your outlook on where you are in life. This is not meant to be a buck up or shut up comment, it's just that you can't improve your life until you change your outlook on things. You won't be able to move forward on things until you confront your feelings and accept your position to move out of it. To answer your question, yes. My 30's were a mess with a divorce,…

How do u find a therapist? I’m a bit weary to discuss super personal things with someone I don’t know even if they’re a professional. How can I find someone I trust and is actually good? Not like the movies where the clock is up and ok next issue. My work offers a mental health service but I’ve looked at their TOS and no thanks. Sometimes I feel like just suspending the world background process and being still would…

I have found online services to be OK when I was struggling with a difficult time. Mindbloom, Betterhelp, and Cerebral were fine for what they were. They got me through the first steps for a slight cost. After that, momentum builds. There's no silver bullet.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing to note is that while Germany is much better if you need social services, it's much easier to move between classes in the US. It's very hard to move up in German society without the right social circles which are also much more exclusive than in the US or London. That said, while therapy is one thing(and very hard to find someone that actually helps you out of your misery instead of reinforcing it), I'd may…

Is therapy better in Germany? I live in Hamburg and the waiting list is more than a year for therapy. I was under the impression that it is somewhat faster in the US When I lived in the UK they wouldn’t offer me even a waiting list

I've been able to get a therapist appointment within a few days in the US.
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