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Ask HN: Software with biggest potential for positive impact in 5 years?

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Re: Ask HN: Software with biggest potential for positive impact in 5 years?

#131
If the right to repair bills get anywhere I think a small amount of new software could have massive environmental impact. É.G. Ability to put a new os on an unsupported phone. That issue will soon apply to cars, which are fabulously expensive to build and to dispose of.

Often it's cheaper in terms of marginal cost in dollars to buy new, but this does not factor in the environmental cost of having built two devices and disposed of one, or the opportunity cost of unused devices.

In the same way that initially Linux enabled users to repuporse old pcs and eventually that tech made it to revolutionize many other areas. I get the feeling that, if right to repair bills had teeth, we would see similar innovation phones, vehicles and other consumer devices.

There is so much underused existing hardware that only a change of law and a few small projects (a consumer/hacker/small business friendly re-installer) could have significant environmental benefit with close to zero environmental cost.

Phones are amazing tech these days but they get thrown away at the same time newer/larger/less powerful single use devices (Alexa/music players/home automation) are purchased new.

Economies rarely measure wealth (because its hard) and target income and profit. For humanity and the planet, wealth and efficient use of that wealth is what matters.

Two clear examples.

Software to re-purpose an unsupported phone into a iot device, voice activated device, media player or back into a working & secure phone.

Software to turn an unsupported self-driving vehicle back into a manually driven vehicle or vehicle with driver assistance.

I think the software required is easily within reach in a five year time frame.

Re: Ask HN: Software with biggest potential for positive impact in 5 years?

#132
As far anything that humanity develops, I would say in the software arena would only be for educational purposes. This would not be advantageous to immediate returns, but would be the best way to develop something with the smallest amount of collateral negatives. Basically create software that teaches reading, writing and arithmetic. If humans can learn those, then other educational pursuits would be allowed. Things such as [science and history], [Engineering and Technology] Once they are competent in these, then things like psychology, philosophy, religion, sociology would be unlocked. Basically software should be centered around focusing the human toward educating themselves in a way that mitigates presumptions and self-destructive tendencies. Or any combination of the cores: reading, writing and math combined with a soft-science. Honestly, I can't figure out a way to mitigate humanities need for laws. People always prefer to be bad than to be good if they can get away with it.

Re: Ask HN: Software with biggest potential for positive impact in 5 years?

#133
post #127

One thing we see over and over again leading to social injustice is the externalization of costs. Examples: * burning fossil fuels externalizes the cost of dealing with climate change * during the housing market crash of 2007, lots of risks were ultimately externalized to the state * plastic waste ending up in the ocean means somebody[tm] externalized the cost of not properly disposing of / recycling their waste ...…

I’d love to see that software too, but most of the issues you describe (plastics, greenhouse gasses) had impacts that were non-obvious at the outset. Then they were controversial, then no longer controversial but heavily lobbied. At the start of the industrial revolution no one knew about global warming. Then the science came out but was lobbied against. Now the science is (mostly) accepted, but we still don’t know c…

> At the start of the industrial revolution no one knew about global warming.

This is true, but it's been known since at least medieval times that that air pollution was pretty unhealthy; arguably a better reason to actually do something about things than climate change.

The same can be said about the usage of lead in fuel and paint; people have known it was harmful well before leaded fuel was invented.

The elephant in the room seems to me more that we, as a society, are pretty inept at long-term and "big picture" thinking and have a strong and deep bias that progress is both good and inevitable.

Re: Ask HN: Software with biggest potential for positive impact in 5 years?

#134

Software to quickly and easily determine the tax implications of crypto purchases and trades.

There's an existing interstate tax system called streamlined sales tax that could be used [1]. This is the system that computes and pays state sales tax on internet purchases and was implemented around 2008.

1. https://www.streamlinedsalestax.org/

Re: Ask HN: Software with biggest potential for positive impact in 5 years?

#135
post #50

So many communication platforms are proprietary walled gardens these days. Facebook, Twitter, Slack, Discord, and so on. Their incentives do not align with what's best for their users, or society in general. We absolutely need open solutions become the standard dominant medium for communicating. If Matrix and Mastodon become as easy to use as their proprietary counterparts, they could undo much of the harm done by ou…

> they could undo much of the harm done by our culturally divisive "social" networks. Or it could be worse. Meta/Twitter spend a lot of resource to moderate content for a reason. I don't see how a decentralised model could solve the problem of content moderation.

Yes. This exactly - the corruptive influence of large sums of money is something software that respects user freedom needs to be resilient against.

Social software should have built-in moderation controls that assumes moderators are corruptible and may sell out the community.

Re: Ask HN: Software with biggest potential for positive impact in 5 years?

#136
The way I think about software is it's basically about processing data. Most of the time that data is someone else's, but sometimes it is generated either by the software itself (e.g., CAD or audio applications), sometimes it is free information but just collected in a useful way (e.g. Google), and sometimes it is proprietary stuff that is hard to access in other ways (lots of financial stuff fits in this category).

The market for software ideas is pretty efficient. So most ideas that you can come up with off the top of your head either already exist or didn't work out for some reason that might not be obvious. The way I'd approach this question is to look at what new data sources have become available. One of the comments mentioned OpenStreetMap and that seems pretty reasonable to me. Improvements in facial recognition and object classification are probably enabling new applications (not all of them will be positive though). Biology/medicine is probably the main field that's had major new advances, obviously mRNA vaccines but also things related to genetics. So I'd bet something important would come out of there.

I'm skeptical that software will have a major impact on things like energy usage or preventing armed conflict, etc. Those are more political/economic problems.

Re: Ask HN: Software with biggest potential for positive impact in 5 years?

#138
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Recently the city that I live was hit by pretty bad landslides and floods - some folks organized how to distribute donations to support centers, but as there was no tool for that they used a public google sheet. At some points there were dozens of people using it at the same time. Luckily no one vandalized it

Its funny you mention Google Sheets...At the non-profit where i worked we would research whatever available software/tools would help...and sometimes we looked at software/tools built specifically for non-profit use cases...but you know what? Almost half the time, for many reasons (sometimes because time is of the essence, or because non-techie non-profit people can not wrap their heads around some fancy non-profit t…

I think it is also a combination of - the power that spreadsheets bring (a Turing complete machine, can't get any better) - the UI that they pack (essentially a fancy freeform DB)

Together, they are easy to grok, use and manipulate for most tasks. Add in the observation that most CRUD apps are basically slow spreadhseets, and you have a deal.

Re: Ask HN: Software with biggest potential for positive impact in 5 years?

#139
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interestingly, I thought like you some years ago. But since then, I realized that, nah, we just need to make cities that don't require cars at all. I'm not against self driving cars, they'll totally save millions of lives. But we must not make the mistake to build our society around the fact that self driving cars are a thing. We must build our future around the fact that any city should be livable without a car.

This. Coming from the rust belt, NYC was shock and awe for me and it isn't even a good example. But I get a bunch of people who ask me "How do you park when you visit?!" I don't...in town. I get a PATH train in NJ and forget the car. It is freeing and the Subway system works well enough for anyone. I wish I didn't live in a Stroad hellscape.

Some of us (maybe most of us) don't want to live in a human Habitrail like NYC.

Re: Ask HN: Software with biggest potential for positive impact in 5 years?

#140
post #127

One thing we see over and over again leading to social injustice is the externalization of costs. Examples: * burning fossil fuels externalizes the cost of dealing with climate change * during the housing market crash of 2007, lots of risks were ultimately externalized to the state * plastic waste ending up in the ocean means somebody[tm] externalized the cost of not properly disposing of / recycling their waste ...…

I’d love to see that software too, but most of the issues you describe (plastics, greenhouse gasses) had impacts that were non-obvious at the outset. Then they were controversial, then no longer controversial but heavily lobbied. At the start of the industrial revolution no one knew about global warming. Then the science came out but was lobbied against. Now the science is (mostly) accepted, but we still don’t know c…

I don't know how software can be used to fix any of the "big" problems other than as an avenue for information and manipulation through social media.

Like for example we know that if we want to do anything about climate change we probably need to change our diets. I don't know how we can convince anyone to do that except through questionable means like social media campaigns.

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