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Re: Ask HN: STEM toy for a 3 years old?

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a) figure out how to make the "messy and dangerous" doable. b) I had some success by playing boardgames (even Carcasone) at this age, with some rules-simplifications c) sometimes we played games on my phone, Monument Valley, I love Hue, Chuchel ... d) Buying and launching a model rocket was a success, if he'd enjoy watching from the distance and then trying to find the rocket again :-) e) in simmilar fashion, buildin…

+1 Monument Valley. Also Love You to Bits, and (now defunct) Tiny Thief. We are playing Gris now. For board/traditional games, we like Robot Turtles (easier version of Robo Rally, which you can upgrade to when they are older), Yahtzee, Backgammon, Stun. Yeah, for over 3, but the younger ones like to watch. And no one mentioned Snap Circuits Jr.!

Snap Circuits Jr. look more 5+? My cousin has that, and likes it, but he is well into school.

I found backgamon to be fairly complicated and never really got my kid to play anything abstract, closest I got was with Hive, but that quickly devolved into stacking cute little bugs on hexagons into stacks (not that I am complaining)

It either needs to be fast, reflex games like Hali Gali, Dobble, e.t.c. work well, or with interesting enough theme, i.e. she actually likes to attempt to build a giant sprawl in Carcasone :D

But I will definitely check out robot turtles :)

Re: Ask HN: STEM toy for a 3 years old?

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I don't yet have kids, but I have this abstract principle of how to raise them to learn STEM and generally become curious: don't give them anything until they build something similar.

This principle can start at a very basic level, like don't give them a ball until they find a small round rock to play with or let them use a chunk of charcoal to draw with before giving them a pencil.

It goes further:

- give them a few batteries and LEDs before giving them a flashlight

- give them some logic gates before giving them a calculator

- make them come up with a problem that can't be solved on a calculator before giving them a computer

- giving them a text-based computer, and make them create something that generates ascii art before giving them anything with a GUI.

- force them to create some sort of networked application before giving them social media.

Etc., etc. I know that in practice, the above sounds ridiculous: kids will grab that iPad as soon as they can use their fingers. However, the point is that there must be an incremental way to introduce kids to technology that forces them to learn, and rewards that learning with more sophisticated technology and learning.

Re: Ask HN: STEM toy for a 3 years old?

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Everyone else is suggesting things to purchase, so I'll suggest things you can find or do outside. The last few are from [1], which I came across a while ago. - Play "identify the waterfowl in the park" followed by "chase!" and (for larger geese and swans) "run away!". [This should satisfy the other comment "play sports instead".] - Then, collect sticks in the woods and build a shelter. Extra points for using differe…

One thing I rarely see mentioned but I have found true for both of my boys: give them a bucket full of around 50 of anything and they will find 100 uses for it: currency, counting tool, treasures to hide and find, etc. Latest version of this in our house is a small box of around 30 pencil erasers (the kind that attach to the back of a pencil) which are perfectly small, cheap and safe.

Re: Ask HN: STEM toy for a 3 years old?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't chase birds for fun

I didn't mention it, but a search for "waterfowl guide children" brought up 90% American sites about killing ducks . So chasing them seems like a minor issue. (Adding "site:uk" to the search gives 90% results about feeding ducks.) I can't find any official advice on whether chasing birds is considered healthy or harmful to either the child or the birds.

> I can't find any official advice on whether chasing birds is considered healthy or harmful to either the child or the birds.

Empathy is a very important skill for children to learn; it's not at all natural. Getting them into the habit of thinking about the feelings of animals is part of the habit of getting them into the habit of thinking about the feelings of other humans as well. Conditioning them to enjoy the distress of animals, by contrast, seems like it would prime them to enjoy the distress of other humans as well.

As far as animals: I think it's harmful for wild animals to be too familiar with humans. If I'm in a park and am approached by any animals begging, I always chase them away -- not for fun, and not even for my own pleasure (since I actually like animals), but for their own benefit.

So ironically, I'd say: Chasing birds is probably good (overall) for the birds, but bad (overall) for the children, unless it's done with the right attitude.

Re: Ask HN: STEM toy for a 3 years old?

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My boy turned 3 in Feb this year, and he spends weekends with me since me and the mother have broken up. Disclaimer: I havn't read all the literature out there on how to best parent but took a few pages out of my own upbringing (both good and bad). As a kid my parents were far from rich, so i didn't have a lot of toys and the one i had were often handed down to me.

On my Do-list:

- overwhelm my kids with all toys appropriate for the age (+1 year) but supervise him when playing with them. I keep giving him things until we don't have any more room for toys and then force him to pick out stuff he no longer want, which we give to less fortunate kids. Teaching him empathy at a early stage seems appropriate to me.

- Teach him that everything can be modified. I bought him a ride-on car that we progressively have modified with proper tires, disc-brakes, carbon fiber spoilers and details, wrapping. He loves his car, and have developed a love for vehicles. He can now name most common and some exclusive cars as we walk down the streets. He can also spot the difference between steel, aluminum, brass and his interest in powertools have caused me to buy kid versions of many of the tools we commonly use when we rebuild his car.

- I got him Duplo that he loves (trains, cars and generic blocks). People will downvote me for this but I reached out on facebook for Lego a month ago and we received a lot. I've explained that if i ever see a piece in or near his mouth i suspend his right to play with it for the duration of the weekend, and since he is with me only on the weekend i keep an eye on him every second. So far, so good. At this point he is building and adding to stuff we build together and i see clear improvements in his ability to place even the smaller parts every week. Initially he kept asking me to put pieces together as soon as it didn't work the first time but now he tries 6-7 times before i have to pry it out of his hands to do it for him :)

- i tried to explain our solarsystem and he is showing extreme interest in videos about space, rockets, moon/space walks so it's become a small tradition that i replay SpaceX latest achievements and failures when there is any news.

- I have avoided only selecting toys/areas of interest/gender-based toys and try to give him everything from musical instruments, balls, frisbees, toy-kitchen, dolls. Whatever he chooses to play with and show interest in, he gets to do.

- music-wise i expose him to everything from classical music, rock, hiphop, children music to break-core and classic EBM/EDM. Lucky for me he sidetracked into EDM, so to sponsor this interest in dance music i got some vintage synths, sequencers and drum-machines he loves to play with next to his acoustic instruments.

My Don't-list is short and basically just contains stuff i don't want him to see when he has screen-time:

- i try to avoid the most brain-dead stuff, like repetitive viewing of the same videos. Videos about counting and colors are all good stuff but at the point when he knows it, it makes little sense to show it to him again, and i try to find interesting videos that drives a conversation about what we are watching, as we are watching. I avoid endless playlists and allow him to tell me what he wants to see, as i help him search for appropriate videos.

Re: Ask HN: STEM toy for a 3 years old?

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I love the "Turing Tumble" for teaching boolean logic as well as other electronic/computing/programming lessons. With an expansion kit or two you can build some pretty sophisticated components! - https://www.turingtumble.com/

One of my issues with tit is that the marbles run slightly too quickly to get young learners to analyze what's going on.

Re: Ask HN: STEM toy for a 3 years old?

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post #110

I love the "Turing Tumble" for teaching boolean logic as well as other electronic/computing/programming lessons. With an expansion kit or two you can build some pretty sophisticated components! - https://www.turingtumble.com/

One of my issues with tit is that the marbles run slightly too quickly to get young learners to analyze what's going on.

Hmm ... I guess it could have been designed with a stand that tipped it back to almost horizontal? Try going flatter than 30 degrees and you'll really slow it down!

Re: Ask HN: STEM toy for a 3 years old?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't mention it, but a search for "waterfowl guide children" brought up 90% American sites about killing ducks . So chasing them seems like a minor issue. (Adding "site:uk" to the search gives 90% results about feeding ducks.) I can't find any official advice on whether chasing birds is considered healthy or harmful to either the child or the birds.

> I can't find any official advice on whether chasing birds is considered healthy or harmful to either the child or the birds. Empathy is a very important skill for children to learn; it's not at all natural. Getting them into the habit of thinking about the feelings of animals is part of the habit of getting them into the habit of thinking about the feelings of other humans as well. Conditioning them to enjoy the di…

I doubt a 3 year old would chase an animal for killing purpose. At most, it's an attempt to play with the animal. Or am I reading through the lines incorrectly?

Re: Ask HN: STEM toy for a 3 years old?

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Lots of negativity in this thread and comments from people that either have not had children or have had them so long ago that they don't remember what is age-appropriate for a 3-year-old. I'll just second some of the common recommendation: - Magnatiles. There are a lot of manufacturers out there, some brand name, some not. The good thing is that at this point they have all standardized on the tile sizes, so they are…

Don't cheap out and buy MEGA Bloks. Kids know they are crap. LEGO Duplo are way better. Duplo also are compatible with standard LEGO blocks as they get older. I will add: - Tegu blocks - sand/dirt toys. Doesn't need to be more than a bucket and a shovel. Little ones love digging in the dirt. - bath toys that demonstrate buoyancy and propulsion. Wind-able toys are better than battery. Simple is better. There is a lot…

I can confirm. Made the mistake because duplo did not have any "lot of blocks" pack available. They didn't stick together, ended up in the garbage.

I bought the duplo education box (100 bucks!), but wayyyyy better.

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