Honestly, while getting phished and hacked are big issues, I would also worry about them being sucked into social media bubbles where they could start latching onto conspiracy theories, fake news, and the like. It was not too long ago where their generation believed it was a bad idea to believe anything on the Internet. I'm not sure what changed. I have seen my own parents fall suspect to that stuff now and then, so…
Ask HN: How do I make sure my non-technical parents are safe online?
131–140 of 215 posts
Re: Ask HN: How do I make sure my non-technical parents are safe online?
#132Anyways, FWIW I've told my mom to always ask to call back if the bank or other financial groups call. And then to either 1) call the number on her physical card or google it and call that number.
Re: Ask HN: How do I make sure my non-technical parents are safe online?
#133Honestly, while getting phished and hacked are big issues, I would also worry about them being sucked into social media bubbles where they could start latching onto conspiracy theories, fake news, and the like. It was not too long ago where their generation believed it was a bad idea to believe anything on the Internet. I'm not sure what changed. I have seen my own parents fall suspect to that stuff now and then, so…
Fortunately, my parents have never had much interest in Facebook, preferring to socialize with real friends in real life. They have their own bubble to some extent, but it's way less toxic than any online version.
Re: Ask HN: How do I make sure my non-technical parents are safe online?
#134Re: Ask HN: How do I make sure my non-technical parents are safe online?
#135Also tell them about phone scams. Over the last year I have received several very convincing phone calls and voice messages from people pretending to be the IRS or cops. It takes a lot of willpower to convince yourself that they are scams. A lot of scams can be stopped if you consult with someone before sending actual money. I think it's important to tell your parents that before they give anybody any money or accoun…
Last time I was home visiting my parents I was astounded by the number of scam calls they'd get per day . Their landline was basically unusable for incoming calls because 90% of them were scammers. And they're obviously targeting older people who by nature respect/trust authority figures: "This is the IRS!" "This is the police, you're in trouble!" "I'm with Microsoft!" "This is the State Department, we need to talk a…
My experience has been very different from yours. I've absolutely had financial institutions make unexpected phone calls to me and asking me security questions. In just the last year:
- Someone claiming to be Mastercard phoned me and asked to first verify my name and address. I was 99% sure it was a scam, but I had just enough doubt and curiosity that I called Mastercard back at a known number and it turns out that they were indeed trying to decide whether or not to block a large purchase I had made.
- Someone from the bowels of the check-clearing department of my business bank account called to verify whether or not to pay a large check I'd written to an individual.
- My regular bank called me out of the blue to check on an incoming wire transfer that had my middle initial although my bank account was set up without a middle initial, and they wanted to verify this before accepting the transfer.
In each case above, the call was from a phone number that I didn't recognize (and were un-googleable because they were internal numbers), from a person I didn't know, and the conversation started by them asking me personal or security-related questions! But they were all legitimate calls, and in fact would have caused me grief had I ignored or refused the call.
Financial institutions contribute to the mess by having poor telephone security practices themselves. They also send emails with links they want you to click on to sign in and they invent all sorts of domain names for various services/surveys/emails that bear no relation to their main domain name.
Re: Ask HN: How do I make sure my non-technical parents are safe online?
#136My recipe is AdBlocks + automated updates enabled + firewall enabled + desktop shortcut for web browser + regular antimalware check. Regarding phishing, I set them up with a GMail account and their filter is quite good against this. So far, not anything bad happened, some minor malware were installed through malicious web browser extensions, but no financial damage or identity theft.
One thing I would like to add: let them set long passwords [0], different ones for each service and write them down in a dedicated notebook. [0]: https://xkcd.com/936/
Re: Ask HN: How do I make sure my non-technical parents are safe online?
#137The worst right now are the ones offering some kind of rebate or refund, and then a really tricky one where they overpay and have you send money to another "vendor" in the amount of the over-payment.
Elderly people where my wife works are constantly scammed by people telling them they are due for their free cancer screening, or their "grandchild" is asking them for bail money.
Re: Ask HN: How do I make sure my non-technical parents are safe online?
#138My no. 1 thing is to always install and ad blocker in their browser. uBlock does a pretty good job of getting rid of all the fake download buttons and pop-ups. And tell them explicitly that if their computer tells them they have a virus, they must not try to do anything about it and call you immediately. 99% of the time it's a fake pop-up and they don't want to look stupid so they follow its "friendly instructions" t…
Edit: HTTPS everywhere[2] could also help prevent attackers from redirecting you to their fake "You have a virus!" website.
[1]Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpa... Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin...
Re: Ask HN: How do I make sure my non-technical parents are safe online?
#139Re: Ask HN: How do I make sure my non-technical parents are safe online?
#140Thankfully, my parents were technical back in the days of BASIC & CP/M. So basically it comes down to making sure that the UI/UX they (and I tbh) like sticks over updates. As such, we've moved completely away from Firefox to Palemoon (with a "classical" theme), from Office & OpenOffice to LibreOffice, and to minimalist Windows theming to keep it looking like, well, Windows. I use either uBlock or Adblock Latitude & G…
In uBlock Origin's settings, I recommend enabling all filter lists under "Malware Domains" to block malware & scam websites.
[1]Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpa... Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin...
I believe uBlock Origin can be installed for Palemoon as well.