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Re: Ask HN: Have you built a house?

#131
I've worked most construction trades and built three houses that my wife and I designed. The devil is in the details. Some machine layering out concrete like a 3D printer is something I saw in Popular Science decades ago. I always wanted to see it happen. Even with a giant 3D printer, you'd have to have people there to lay conduits for plumbing, electrical, etc. The devil is in the details and most of those details are hidden from view. Out of sight, out of mind for most people. Once you do these jobs you realize there is so much that goes into a house.

Once a house is built in a way that is "out of the norm", you'll raise a few eyebrows from inspectors too. We had that issue and it was because it was a timber framed house like someone might have made 100+ years ago - no bolts, nails screws, metal brackets, etc. It was 100% put together with joints and pegs. The inspector only walked around with his jaw on the floor. We finally sat him down to show that we did our homework and followed engineering guidelines - but they weren't guidelines that he was familiar with.

Re: Ask HN: Have you built a house?

#132
My family built our home starting in about 1990 when I was in high school. We built the entire thing ourselves. The only parts we didn't fabricate were the cabinets that my uncle built. We built a 3 bedroom 2 bath home with a study. I really cannot remember how big it was.

We built a 'pier and beam' foundation that created a cawl space under the house. We did our own plumbing, electrical, and hvac. We built in the country where the required inspections were minimal.

Even after having gone through the experience, I'm not sure what pointers I would give you here other than be prepared to do a lot of hard work and, if you finish, you'll probably be really glad you did it!

Re: Ask HN: Have you built a house?

#133
Don't put your home near place names like "floodville", "lavafornia", "poisonwell" or "mudbottom". Is surprising how many people still insist (and are allowed) on building their home inside the floodable areas near rivers. If there are very old trees or even better very old houses standing around, put a green checkmark in your notebook.

Let the floor, columns and beams to be managed by a professional. Furniture is heavy and your house will need to stand a lot of weight. You can live with a door misplaced opening against the light switch, but not with a treacherous floor.

Re: Ask HN: Have you built a house?

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I've never hired anybody to do interior paint, so I'm wondering: do pros ever actually tape a ceiling border? I've always just cut in by hand. I've found that it's usually high enough that any minor imperfections aren't noticeable. The last time I did a wall or ceiling, the crown molding had been painted so many times, it would have been nigh impossible to tape it and get a satisfactory result. But I've been living i…

> do pros ever actually tape a ceiling border? Nope. They either use something that looks like a trowel, or freehand it.

I've never seen a pro use tape, unless they are spray painting. My guess is that it takes to long when you're probably being paid by the job not the hour.

Re: Ask HN: Have you built a house?

#135
I'm actually planning on building a cabin near Truckee, CA. I've bought a 1/4 acre and I'm working on the designs now. I want to do most of it myself. I've got the sketchup plans on github https://github.com/CacheFactory/Cabin I'm just wondering if it should be 2 or 3 floors. I don't want to bit off too much that I can't finish it.

Re: Ask HN: Have you built a house?

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I've built a house, in the sense that I was working as the general contractor and hiring out crews and tradespeople to do the actual work. My involvement differed anywhere between hire-a-crew and pay them when they are done down to doing certain things myself 100%. A few takeaways: - Things seem simple from the outside, before you do them for the first time. They are in actuality quite complicated. Even something as…

I'm thinking about dipping my toes into this world by building a shed. As David Lynch said:

"Whenever you can build a shed, you've got it made"

"I'm a shed builder. If I was just left alone, I would build sheds. I would plan them at Bob's Big Boy Coffee Shop, and I would become very excited with these coffees and a chocolate shake. So, when I left Bob's, I would be racing home with plans for certain parts of a shed, right? Then, I would find the right kind of wood and I would start cutting them up with my power saw, nailing it, fitting it and working it. And I would be almost in heaven with happiness"

http://www.thecityofabsurdity.com/quotecollection/sheds.html

Re: Ask HN: Have you built a house?

#137
I've basically done everything short of laying concrete foundations and putting up the frame. Not all on one house, but bits various houses.

There are a lot of things you can do yourself (depending on jurisdiction) that can save a lot of money. My old man owns several houses, and home renovation/building houses is sort of his hobby (it also makes him a lot of money, but it's not his day job). I've been helping him with renovation/construction since I was about 5 years old.

My father and I have built our own fences, painted interior and exterior, plastered (not actually so easy), tiled floors (also not that easy), laid wooden floor, laid decks, built swimming pools (we did hire a contractor to dig the pit), retaining walls (took a weekend, saved about $10,000), internal electrical wiring and fittings (you may need to get a certificate to do this), ethernet/phone wiring, installed roof insulation, built kitchens, laid driveways etc. etc.

The only things I haven't done are laying concrete foundations and erecting frames (all the houses I've worked on were timber framed).

The main problems you're likely to run into is whether you're legally allowed to do it yourself or not. You'll most likely need qualifications to do any electrical work (which my father has, although he's not an electrician) or plumbing/gasfitting work.

My suggestion though would be to start small. I've been doing this sort of thing since as long as I can remember, so I'm fairly confident in what I'm doing. If I were you I wouldn't start with trying to build a house from scratch, start with building some smaller things, like rebuilding your fence (if you have one) or building a shed/sleepout.

I really don't know how feasible it would be to make a concrete house by yourself. I wouldn't lay a concrete foundation myself, it's not a one man job to start with, and if you screw it up it's a very expensive mistake.

If this is your first experience with building a new house, which I assume it is, I'd really caution against trying to do it all yourself and biting off more than you can chew. Get an architect, get a project plan (I have no experience at all at this end), and then break down what you can do yourself, and what you need to pay somebody else to do.

Re: Ask HN: Have you built a house?

#138

My family built our house. It was while I was in highschool. We did everything except pour the foundation, the septic system, and stuff required by a certified folks like some electrical work and building code stuff. Unless you’re building in an un-zoned area with no permits required you’re not going to be able to truly “build it yourself”. We had the benefit of having big equipment available due to our family busine…

> But straw bale houses are a lot like concrete houses. Once built difficult to re-work. Great for insulation. Horrible to re-work.

Environmentally-focused / permaculture types tend to like concrete floor + strawbale. It solves a lot of heating / cooling problems, but naturally the benefits there depend on the climate you're in and local costs of materials.

Anyway, to your point. Strawbale housing comes in two broad forms -- infill or load-bearing. Infill was the most popular way of doing this a few years ago, but seems to have lost favour (I don't know why). Load-bearing is definitely more difficult to modify, and that may be the variety you've got experience with. Infill is where you build a (say) structural metal pre-fab shed on a slab, and then tie down bales to embedded threaded bar in the floors to make the walls - filling gaps at the top with looser material. Non-trivial to change your mind later, but at least can be done without affecting the roof / infrastructure.

Re: Ask HN: Have you built a house?

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I have no affiliation with this YouTube channel, but here's a guy who does an entire in-depth series on how to build a house from scratch[0], from surveying the land, to getting permits, to pouring the foundation, and so on. Good way to spend a few hours on a weekend. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn4L_aJ1rV4&list=PLRZePj70B4...

Essential Craftsman is incredible!

Re: Ask HN: Have you built a house?

#140
I've done a major rehaul on my house.

- Removal of mould in basement - Redid basement (plumbing + electrical) - Full foundation waterproofing + french drain - Full landscaping (asphalt, stone, sod) - Full reflooring (tile + wood) - Redid downstairs bathroom - Redid garage

My suggestions?

- Keep things as simple as possible. I can't count the times I ended up creating problems by trying to be clever. - Keep water out of the house. I would forego the basement completely and start from a concrete slab. - Build on solid ground (i.e. rock) if possible - Build on elevated ground with a good grade to keep the water away

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