overhyped llm+cron wrapper
come on. dont close your eyes. even if its that, its very powerful to do things on its own
Ask HN: Any real OpenClaw (Clawd Bot/Molt Bot) users? What's your experience?
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Re: Ask HN: Any real OpenClaw (Clawd Bot/Molt Bot) users? What's your experience?
#122I've been using it for the past couple days. Like most AI products right now, it is both incredible and incredibly stupid.
Virtually everything I've tried (starting with just getting it running) was broken in some way. Most of those things I was able to use an LLM to resolve, which is cool, but also why doesn't it just work to begin with?
I still haven't gotten it to successfully create a cron job. Also messages keep getting lost between the web GUI and discord. Trying to enable the matrix integration broke the whole thing. It seems to be able to recall past sessions, but only sometimes.
I've been using OpenCode with various models, often times running several instances in tmux that I can connect to and switch between over ssh. It feels like the hype around openclaw is mostly from bringing the multi-instance agentic experience to non-developers, and providing some nice hooks to integrate with email, twitter, etc. But given that I have a nice setup running opencode in little firejail-isolated containers, I'll probably drop openclaw. Way too janky, and I can't get over the thought of "if this is so amazing, why doesn't it work?"
Re: Ask HN: Any real OpenClaw (Clawd Bot/Molt Bot) users? What's your experience?
#123Yes, I’m running it with a minimal set of plugins. When I’m driving or out I can ask Siri to send a iMessage to Clawdbot something like “Can you find out if anything is playing at the local concert venue, and figure in how much 2 tickets would cost”, and a few minutes later it will give me a few options. It even surprised me and researched the different seats and recommended a cheaper one or free activities as an alt…
> The future is going to be locally hosted and ad free and there’s nothing Big Tech can do about it. I wouldn't be so certain of that. Someone is paying to train and create these models. Ultimately, the money to do that is going to have to come from somewhere.
Good News! The Models are done, and you can download them for free. Even if they stopped being worked on this moment, those are finished and usable right now, and won't get any worse over time.
Re: Ask HN: Any real OpenClaw (Clawd Bot/Molt Bot) users? What's your experience?
#124Yes, I’m running it with a minimal set of plugins. When I’m driving or out I can ask Siri to send a iMessage to Clawdbot something like “Can you find out if anything is playing at the local concert venue, and figure in how much 2 tickets would cost”, and a few minutes later it will give me a few options. It even surprised me and researched the different seats and recommended a cheaper one or free activities as an alt…
How are you running Kimi locally?
Quantized, heavily, and offloading everything possible to sysram. You can run it this way, just barely reachable with consumer hardware with 16 to 24gb vram and 256gb sysram. Before the spike in prices you could just about build such a system for $2500, but the ram along probably adds another $2k onto that now. Nvidia dgx boxes and similar setups with 256gb unified ram can probably manage it more slowly ~1-2 tokens per second. Unsloth has the quantized models. I’ve test Kimi though don’t have quite the headroom at home for it, and I don’t yet see a significant enough difference between it and the Qwen 3 models that can run in more modest setups: I get a highly usable 50 tokens per second out of the A3B instruct that fits into 16gb VRAM with enough left over not to choke Netflix and other browser tasks, it performs on par with what I ask out of Haiku in Claude Code, and better as my own tweaking improves with the also ever better tooling that comes out near weekly.
Re: Ask HN: Any real OpenClaw (Clawd Bot/Molt Bot) users? What's your experience?
#125Yes, I’m running it with a minimal set of plugins. When I’m driving or out I can ask Siri to send a iMessage to Clawdbot something like “Can you find out if anything is playing at the local concert venue, and figure in how much 2 tickets would cost”, and a few minutes later it will give me a few options. It even surprised me and researched the different seats and recommended a cheaper one or free activities as an alt…
> This is the product that Apple and Google were unable to build
It's not they're unable to build it, it's that their businesses are built on "engagement" and wasting human time. A bot "engaging" with the ads and wasting its time would signal the end of their business model.
Re: Ask HN: Any real OpenClaw (Clawd Bot/Molt Bot) users? What's your experience?
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Instead of sitting in my office for 12 hours working with 20 open terminals (exactly what I have open right now on my machine). I can take my kids to Disneyland (I live in Southern California and it's nearby) and work on my iphone talking to "Patch" while we stand in line for an hour to get on a ride. Meanwhile. my openclaw agent "Patch" manages my 20 open terminals on my development workstation in my office. Patch u…
If this is actually true, then what will soon happen is you will be expected to manage more separate “Patch” instances until you are once again chained to your desk. Maybe the next bottleneck will be the time needed to understand what features actually bring value?
What if he works for himself?
Not a $DayJob?
Re: Ask HN: Any real OpenClaw (Clawd Bot/Molt Bot) users? What's your experience?
#127It seems there are a bots on here commenting and upvoting each other. If HN is susceptible to this, it feels like there's no chance for the rest of the web. Damn.
Re: Ask HN: Any real OpenClaw (Clawd Bot/Molt Bot) users? What's your experience?
#128This is my honest personal experience. Frankly, I feel like this is just a toy—nothing more, nothing less. It's fun to play with and entertaining, but it feels like a trend for people who “don't really understand AI but want to feel like they're using it” or “want to jump on the AI bandwagon” to dabble with once. While using it, I feel that “Oh~” moment of fun, but it doesn't make me want to keep using it. Maybe it j…
If it’s a local model, why would you care if it sees your messages or notes?
As another clever person commented earlier, this also serves as a gateway, allowing me to view my local documents and leak them out at any time.
Re: Ask HN: Any real OpenClaw (Clawd Bot/Molt Bot) users? What's your experience?
#129Yes, I’m running it with a minimal set of plugins. When I’m driving or out I can ask Siri to send a iMessage to Clawdbot something like “Can you find out if anything is playing at the local concert venue, and figure in how much 2 tickets would cost”, and a few minutes later it will give me a few options. It even surprised me and researched the different seats and recommended a cheaper one or free activities as an alt…
> It also runs on my own computer, and the latest frontier open source models are able to drive it (Kimi, etc). The future is going to be locally hosted and ad free and there’s nothing Big Tech can do about it. It’s glorious. After messing with openclaw on an old 2018 Windows laptop running WSL2 that I was about to recycle, I am coming to the same conclusion, and the paradigm shift is blowing my mind. Tinkerers parad…
Same here. I like tinkering with my Home Assistant setup and small web server running miscellaneous projects on my Raspberry Pi, but I hate having to debug it from my phone when it all falls over while I'm not near my computer.
Being able to chat with somebody that has a working understanding of a Unix environment and can execute tasks like "figure out why Caddy is crash looping and propose solutions" for a few dollars per month is a dream come true.
I'm not actually using OpenClaw for that just yet, though; something about exposing my full Unix environment to OpenAI or Anthropic just seems wrong, both in terms of privacy and dependency. The former could probably be solved with some redacting and permission-enforcing filter between the agent and the OS, but the latter needs powerful local models. (I'll only allow my Unix devops skills to start getting rusty once I can run an Opus 4.5 equivalent agent on sub-$5000 hardware :)
Re: Ask HN: Any real OpenClaw (Clawd Bot/Molt Bot) users? What's your experience?
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The future is going to be locally hosted and ad free and there’s nothing Big Tech can do about it. I wouldn't be so certain of that. Someone is paying to train and create these models. Ultimately, the money to do that is going to have to come from somewhere.
Good News! The Models are done, and you can download them for free. Even if they stopped being worked on this moment, those are finished and usable right now, and won't get any worse over time.
They wouldn't get any worse, but I assume they'd get behind really fast.