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Re: Ask HN: How do you backup your Android?

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I don't have root on my android and I try to avoid using any FAANG's infrastructure. A few weeks ago I bricked my phone and lost a bunch of data because I only backed up my photos. More on that in a sec, but the big thing I learned is how much stuff on my phone I didn't miss once it was gone and how much I did miss. App backup? who cares? This was a chance for me to see what's new on F-Droid and it's been great (look…

Stop using F-droid. It is insecure and shouldn't be the primary way of installing apps. Stick to Aurora Store or Play Store

Why is it insecure?

Re: Ask HN: How do you backup your Android?

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

also use NeoBackup, and it works pretty well for the most part.

Since your phone is rooted, how do you manage banking apps and other things that don't like working on a rooted device? How much work is involved in getting those to work?

For my part I use Magisk, and a specific module for one bank.

The French and Belgian identity apps (France Identité and itsme) don't work though. When I really need them (which is rare) I have to use an old phone that's not rooted.

Re: Ask HN: How do you backup your Android?

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post #8

My device is rooted and I use NeoBackup to backup apps with all their data (including what the app developer marked as "should not be backed up", often data that they would like you to backup on their own cloud instead). Syncthing synchronises these backups to my home server automatically, as well as the phone's user data (photos, mainly). The photos are additionally sent to Photoprism. I avoid Google's cloud as much…

> My device is rooted A problem in and of itself: brittle when upgrading, won't work with you banking app, etc...

It's true that it makes some things more complicated, but it's a trade-off that I'm willing to make for the convenience and security of hosting my own backups.

Re: Ask HN: How do you backup your Android?

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post #30

I don't have root on my android and I try to avoid using any FAANG's infrastructure. A few weeks ago I bricked my phone and lost a bunch of data because I only backed up my photos. More on that in a sec, but the big thing I learned is how much stuff on my phone I didn't miss once it was gone and how much I did miss. App backup? who cares? This was a chance for me to see what's new on F-Droid and it's been great (look…

Stop using F-droid. It is insecure and shouldn't be the primary way of installing apps. Stick to Aurora Store or Play Store

Could you elaborate on that? Do you mean bigger possibility of apps containg malware or what?

Re: Ask HN: How do you backup your Android?

#128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stop using F-droid. It is insecure and shouldn't be the primary way of installing apps. Stick to Aurora Store or Play Store

Could you elaborate on that? Do you mean bigger possibility of apps containg malware or what?

https://privsec.dev/posts/android/f-droid-security-issues/, the recent findings of bypass of certificate pinning [0], wireguard creator doesn't trust f-droid himself [1], continued harmful attacks to GrapheneOS devs [2] and a few more points regarding their build infra using a deprecated debian release.

[0] https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2024/04/08/8

[1] https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/issues/3110#note_1613...

[2] https://gitlab.com/ironfox-oss/IronFox/-/issues/7#note_22877...

Re: Ask HN: How do you backup your Android?

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post #6

The only data I care about on the phone already gets backed up by Google and is then exported regularly via Google Takeout. I don't live on my phone so I tend not to generate much of any value on it other than random pictures of things. Prior to Google automatically backing up everything, I used Titanium Backup.

Just to note, it seems Titanium Backup is no longer maintained (last Play store update in 2019) and definitely does not work on more recent versions of Android. I've found Swift Backup pretty much fills the same role at TB.

NeoBackup on FDroid is what I used before grapheneOS (where I'm not rooted)

Re: Ask HN: How do you backup your Android?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since your phone is rooted, how do you manage banking apps and other things that don't like working on a rooted device? How much work is involved in getting those to work?

For my part I use Magisk, and a specific module for one bank. The French and Belgian identity apps (France Identité and itsme) don't work though. When I really need them (which is rare) I have to use an old phone that's not rooted.

I was positively surprised that the German passport app worked rooted without denylist.
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