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Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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I just realized reading all these replies with people who also suffer from it does somehow help. It helps to worry less, because evidently there's not much that can be done medically (at least for now). So, thanks for this!

Yes, especially /u/n8henrie's comment. They have the expertise (assuming they are who they say they are), and have put in the time and research, and came to a conclusion. I'm not going to double up on their work.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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post #36

I had tinnitus for a while, and tried a few things that didn't work but this thomping technique I found on reddit one day stops it, and I just do it every couple of days and it disappears for a while. Not permanent but whenever it bothers me now I just do this thumping and it disappears in a few seconds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yDCox-qKbk

Weird. I tried it and didn't get much effect, but it's interesting to see so many positive comments on it. I'll try it some more over the next couple days.

I think that's because tinnitus comes in very different forms and intensity, and since it can't be objectively measured, it's difficult to compare between individuals. My guess ist that you can only silence very low intensity tinnitus with this technique.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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I had tinnitus for 1 month or so when I was living in London and it went away on its own. Can't remember if it stopped before or after I moved to Germany. In London I was living in a busy area above a grocery shop overlooking a street with a lot of buses going past so there was a constant hum from below. Not sure if it was related but my tinnitus just wouldn't go away. I had had tinnitus before but only for short periods if time and not so intense; only if the environment around me was totally quiet and I was very tired.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Phase is a physical property of sound waves that cannot influence a signal originating from the brain or cochlea.

Yea, but he proposed shifting the phase of the physical signal (16.5khz) which supposedly matches the frequency of the imaginary signal. I still think it's unlikely to work.

I understand, and there could very well be some psychoacoustic cancellation when stimulating with a matching tone. But any effect will be regardless of the phase of the signal, because phase cancellation is a physical effect of sound waves that occurs before they are converted to neural activity (where tinnitus originates from).

In simpler terms: tinnitus does not have phase, at least not in the same way a sound wave does.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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I’ve had tinnitus for about one year now. There is no permanent relief or treatment. Lots of snake oil. My hearing was tested by an Audiologist and my hearing was normal. The “sound” I observe is high pitched. Using a tone generator I matched it to around 16,500 Hz. Interestingly, if I play that tone I get temporary relief on the order of 2-10 minutes. As far as I understand my tinnitus is the result of something goi…

I’ve had tinnitus for something like 5 years now and mine varies from day-to-day. Mine seems to be somewhat connected to diet. I think salt might be a trigger. If I have a French Fries or some other salty snack, I’m in for louder ringing an hour or two later.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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post #115
post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried playing that tone and shifting it's phase to cancel the imaginary signal?

Phase is a physical property of sound waves that cannot influence a signal originating from the brain or cochlea.

It's fun to test what happens when you play the same wave through your headphones but one channel is inverted.

Funny enough lots of stereo widening magic relies on a physical property of sound not existing when it's in your head.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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post #9

I'm a physician with lifelong bilateral tinnitus. Multiple pitches, quite loud, and acutely worse on the right side for the last 1.5 years or so (with some slight hearing loss). I've spent a lot of time on PubMed, but so far I've not found anything that helps mine, even partially or temporarily. I've consulted with close friends that have significant expertise is relevant fields, which has not been fruitful. Thankful…

Have you talked about the Lenire device with your colleagues at all? It got FDA approval and is slowly rolling out as they train audiologists.

There’s a Lenire provider where I live (Austin) and I’m on the fence about scheduling an appointment to get one.

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