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Re: Ask HN: Are companies becoming increasingly pushy? If so why?

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Post by nicbou »

wolpoli wrote: post #82
themanmaran wrote: post #2

Things I've noticed: 1. Obtrusive messaging / sign up modals / exit intent modals work. I hate them. But they convert. 2. There is a large group of people who don't blink at the 'account required' messages. They just sign up. 3. If you don't have an account, you're not a useful customer. There is no reason for the company to cater to you.

We now also have sign-in modal appearing after clicking on a button labelled "Generate 4 images". There are clear contextual clues that images will appear on the side after clicking on the button. Where do designers learn to be so pushy when they are not acceptable in real life? Is there a reference guide for designers that teach these patterns?

Maybe look at Calm Technology? NN group?

Re: Ask HN: Are companies becoming increasingly pushy? If so why?

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Post by FrontierPsych »

I'm starting to use the internet less and less for this type of thing. I can't abide using youtube, they bleep out curse words because of advertisers and other things like that.

How did the "wild west" of the internet become New England Puritan culture of 1620? Makes me sick.

Re: Ask HN: Are companies becoming increasingly pushy? If so why?

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Post by nicbou »

dmitrygr wrote: post #45
danwee wrote: post #10

Agree. There's a bunch of websites I don't visit anymore: Pinterest (you need an account just to browse pictures? c'mon!), Reddit (some subreddits are only available via the app... I'll never install the Reddit app), Instagram, Medium, Twitter, lots of newspapers. I thought I was going to miss them, but I haven't.

> some subreddits are only available via the app just fyi: old.reddit.com accesses ALL subreddits

i.reddit.com works and is mobile-friendly

Re: Ask HN: Are companies becoming increasingly pushy? If so why?

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Post by quickthrower2 »

avereveard wrote: post #36
AlexandrB wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What honestly bothers me more is how "Yes/No" dialogs are increasingly being replaced by "Yes/Later", even in paid products/services. Seems like companies are done with even pretending to take "No" for an answer when they want to push something on you.

Even game mods now come with intrusive "subscribe to my patron" popups there's no rock unturned for monetization

"npm i" even had someone begging for a job in standard out.

Re: Ask HN: Are companies becoming increasingly pushy? If so why?

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Post by kooshball »

itronitron wrote: post #92
brk wrote: post #29

(Anonymous)Visitors is not a very useful or valuable metric. Blindly pumping content into the ether isn't going to convert to value, or cashflow. I think we are seeing the advancing erosion of (generic)ad-supported free content and services. Which is not necessarily a Bad Thing. If you can't be bothered to identify yourself with an account, then these services do not get much value from you, and many times see you as…

Failure of imagination, or even just a memory fault. If I have a website that is focused on content relating to heirloom tomatoes during the week and artisanal firewood on weekends then I should be able to sell advertising space on my site during the week to grocers and on the weekends to woodstove manufacturers. It's not that complicated.

your understanding of ads industry is decades out of date. this is not how digital ad is bought or sold today for small content creators

Re: Ask HN: Are companies becoming increasingly pushy? If so why?

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Post by jacooper »

doc_gunthrop wrote: post #109
jacooper wrote: post #100

That's why one should use nitter, bibliogram, proxitok etc.

Nitter still works but Bibliogram is gone. For medium.com posts, there is scribe.rip.

Bibliogram still works if you are using a small instance.

Re: Ask HN: Are companies becoming increasingly pushy? If so why?

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Post by worldsayshi »

kokanee wrote: post #64

User and business priorities are aligned during the growth phase, when user acquisition is the most important thing for the business. Once there is a self-sustaining level of user activity and new signups, revenue per engagement becomes an increasingly important metric. At that point the user's priorities and those of the business are no longer aligned, and the company starts asking more of its users. A third phase o…

Interesting take. It feels like this can explain quite a bit about growing vs large company culture as well.
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