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I am so confused with comments in this threads. Since when did tech employees became so submissive and scared? As far as I know, having 2 jobs is not illegal, not unethical. Many, sadly, low income families have to work two or more jobs. We in tech make enough but what if you are bored and need more challenges. My current second job is family but I know multiple single engineers (or in one case, with grown up kids) w…
There's a lot of crab mentality in tech.
I was on the other side of this: We had a remote worker who got a new job but then tried to hide it, collecting paychecks as long as possible. For any manager paying attention, it wasn't difficult to spot. He would swing between being eager to please and virtually unreachable. We didn't have many meetings or phone calls, but he had more scheduling conflicts than anyone else. On the rare occasion that we had high urge…
Or he only lists the J2 from which he hasn't been fired.
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IF the employers are happy with the work, or even not, nobody is getting exploited here. IF the work suffers, they are free to fire. For the properties, people need to rent from someone. Landlords are only scum if they mistreat their tenants.
I have no issue with employers being exploited, they would exploit you too. But the housing thing is gross — the reason housing is so distorted is that the wealthy are actively trying to deny folks access to housing. There are so many better ways. Landlording is always a scum action. It is a personal choice to seek rent with no benefit to society while enriching oneself and preventing others from building their own w…
Both groups helped me have a place to sleep when I saved to purchase a house, so to that extent, they upheld their part of the bargain.
I would rather work with them than live in a charity shelter or rent from the government.
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Totally agree unless they want to complain about it to me. If a peer or employee tried to sell me a sob story about 500k not being enough I would tell them to hit the road
again, you have no idea what’s going on with their life or finances. people find themselves in situations all the time they think would never happen. hope you never end up there.
If I'm ever in a position where I need more than 500k/yr, it will be my problem, not somebody elses.
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Having 2 jobs isn't inherently illegal. But pretty much every single full-time employment contract for an SWE that I've seen, stipulated that I am not allowed to have any other full-time job for the period of my employment.
To add an opposing anecdote, after 30 years in the biz I've never seen this. Not once.
Also doesn't the contract has something about the number of hours? It may not be enforceable, but it's on paper.
I was on the other side of this: We had a remote worker who got a new job but then tried to hide it, collecting paychecks as long as possible. For any manager paying attention, it wasn't difficult to spot. He would swing between being eager to please and virtually unreachable. We didn't have many meetings or phone calls, but he had more scheduling conflicts than anyone else. On the rare occasion that we had high urge…
As a non-US person this is the most ridiculous reason to inherent anything.
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Thank you! My post was overly emotional and it triggered me when I read you were landlording. Like — I have no issue with you drawing multiple wages, but then using that money to extort rent from working class folks just was a bridge too far for me. As a renter I have experienced some really dirty actions from landlords, and given the drop in housing inventory, landchadding just seems exploitative with no gain for so…
Just because you have had a bad experience with a landlord does not make all landlords bad. Just like you probably had a bad experience at a restaurant, does that mean all restaurants are bad?
If restaurants went round gobbling up the food supply and then the only place to eat was at exploitative prices, then yeah, all restaurants would be scum.
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I have no issue with employers being exploited, they would exploit you too. But the housing thing is gross — the reason housing is so distorted is that the wealthy are actively trying to deny folks access to housing. There are so many better ways. Landlording is always a scum action. It is a personal choice to seek rent with no benefit to society while enriching oneself and preventing others from building their own w…
I'm sorry to hear that you have had bad experiences with landlords. I have had some really good ones, and some mediocre ones. Both groups helped me have a place to sleep when I saved to purchase a house, so to that extent, they upheld their part of the bargain. I would rather work with them than live in a charity shelter or rent from the government.
I get that they provide you a house, me too, however if they didn’t exist housing wouldn't be a problem. It’s the best of a bad situation. At best a landlord that treats you well is the abnormality — they are still scum who deprives everyone else from ever owning a place.
I am so confused with comments in this threads. Since when did tech employees became so submissive and scared? As far as I know, having 2 jobs is not illegal, not unethical. Many, sadly, low income families have to work two or more jobs. We in tech make enough but what if you are bored and need more challenges. My current second job is family but I know multiple single engineers (or in one case, with grown up kids) w…
You don't see the problem in working 16+ hours a day considering the average person needs 8 hours of sleep and needs to ingest food?
Not for me, but your desires may different
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I'm sorry to hear that you have had bad experiences with landlords. I have had some really good ones, and some mediocre ones. Both groups helped me have a place to sleep when I saved to purchase a house, so to that extent, they upheld their part of the bargain. I would rather work with them than live in a charity shelter or rent from the government.
I’d rather that housing didn’t cost a death pledge for 30 years of labor — like say every other time in human history pre-1980s. I get that they provide you a house, me too, however if they didn’t exist housing wouldn't be a problem. It’s the best of a bad situation. At best a landlord that treats you well is the abnormality — they are still scum who deprives everyone else from ever owning a place.
Owner occupation rates are about the same since the 1960s, and worse before. I wonder if there are examples that approach this ideal. Perhaps family homesteads during the US westward expansion, but even then there was a lot of landless workers.