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Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

#121
I was in this same situation a couple of years ago and easily managed to move to a comoletely Google-free life for 3€/month. I've documented it on my blog [0], but here's the summary:

- mail-in-a-box for email

- NextCloud (included in mail-in-a-box) for contacts, calendars, and files

- LineageOS for MicroG for Android

- OpenStreetMap for maps

- DuckDuckGo for search

- Firefox as internet browser

[0] https://blog.ideotec.es/leaving-google-foss-journey/

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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I'm still looking for an alternative e-mail provider that is more privacy-conscious than Google, still works with ordinary IMAP and is based in the EU so I get to actually benefit from EU data protection. Haven't found one that ticks all boxes yet, but going with a US company doesn't appear to change much as I'm not a US citizen and hence fair game once my data is on US servers and I guess it inevitably will end up t…

I recently moved all emails on personal domains to Cloudflare Email Routing [1]. It works flawlessly and you can setup ProtonMail or whatever other email you want as your private address that everything gets forwarded to without having to reveal what the destination address is. For sending email, I setup an SMTP relay via Amazon SES. If you verify your domain, you can send an email from any alias. This combination wo…

Regarding SES, beware they force a Message-ID header, preventing at least forwarding of mail without breaking threads. There are probably more gotchas to this I hadn't discovered.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

#123

I use Fastmail for email and Dropbox for cloud storage. They're not going anywhere any time soon.

https://www.theverge.com/2014/4/11/5605734/dropbox-ceo-defen...

What's your point?

You posted a URL as if that was self-evident commentary.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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post #36

I moved away from Google a few years ago. I'm using the following alternatives: - Email: ProtonMail - Contacts, Calendar, Online storage: NextCloud hosted by Hetzner ( https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share ) - Phone: LineageOS (Android) -- App stores: F-Droid for most apps and Aurora store for the occasional non F-Droid apps (like the ProtonMail client) -- Maps: MagicEarth (not open source but privacy friendl…

I moved to DuckDuckGo as my default search engine in the past couple of weeks but a few days ago, I had gone back to google search because the search results are much better. I really wanted to move away from google but the service is just much greater compared to the alternatives.

DuckDuckGo isn't trustable either. The only benefit to using them is just changing google's market share at your own expense

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

#125
post #36

I moved away from Google a few years ago. I'm using the following alternatives: - Email: ProtonMail - Contacts, Calendar, Online storage: NextCloud hosted by Hetzner ( https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share ) - Phone: LineageOS (Android) -- App stores: F-Droid for most apps and Aurora store for the occasional non F-Droid apps (like the ProtonMail client) -- Maps: MagicEarth (not open source but privacy friendl…

I moved to DuckDuckGo as my default search engine in the past couple of weeks but a few days ago, I had gone back to google search because the search results are much better. I really wanted to move away from google but the service is just much greater compared to the alternatives.

I had the opposite experience.

Google was returning what I wanted, not what I needed.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

#126
post #27

https://app.skiff.org/ for E2EE Google Docs. Even has a direct integration to make the migration

Thanks for sharing! Happy to answer any questions.

The registration and login forms both appear to break Firefox password manager, even after applying a bookmarklet to remove relevant 'no autocomplete' HTML attributes. I just signed up, but chances are I won't be back after my clipboard gets overwritten

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

#127

Not sure if you like Microsoft any better but after over a decade of Gmail I’ve moved back to outlook and prefer it. It’s a lot better than it used to be. One Drive is much better than GDrive, and MS’s office programs have always been significantly better IMO. I find the whole Microsoft suite to be affordable and enjoyable to use. Obviously iPhone is an (or the) alternative to Android. I still don’t find much better…

Yes, I use the outlook dot com ecosystem and recommend it for non-technical people on a budget. It has a free version of MS Word that's good enough to make resumes on if you have no other way.

At the other end of the scale, you get get a free Office365 enterprise license if you sign up to try out MS Graph Explorer. 90 days but they've renewed it a couple times now, you just have to log in and use it every once in a while.

Tip: If you have more than 1 MS account your computer starts to get confused. In chrome open a guest window to log in to different MS accounts.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

#128

Not to hijack the thread but in a similar vain: is anyone using an esolutions/murena degoogled phone as a daily driver? Thinking of getting their Fairphone version with /e/os but am unsure how it will handle common tasks (banking apps, navigation, camera, ...)? ie. https://esolutions.shop/shop/murena-fairphone-4-fr/

I'm using the Fairphone 3 with /e/OS. Camera works fine. Navigation works with MagicEarth without any issues.

Banking Apps are a different story. At least my bank in Germany is not supporting non-Google phones yet. I'm keeping my previous phone (Nokia 6.1) around mostly for this reason.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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post #36

I moved away from Google a few years ago. I'm using the following alternatives: - Email: ProtonMail - Contacts, Calendar, Online storage: NextCloud hosted by Hetzner ( https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share ) - Phone: LineageOS (Android) -- App stores: F-Droid for most apps and Aurora store for the occasional non F-Droid apps (like the ProtonMail client) -- Maps: MagicEarth (not open source but privacy friendl…

Any particular reason to avoid OpenStreetMaps? Vs MagicEarth

I haven't tested MagicEarth, but never have I spent as much time miserably lost as when I spent a very determined month trying to use OSMAnd+ (the main AOSP OSM client, at least as far as I knew at the time?).

It's dreadful at driving directions, and it's not like I live somewhere weird. It was getting me lost even in a town with a 30k+ student state university.

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