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Ask HN: Why is there no high quality method for voice control of a PC?

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Re: Ask HN: Why is there no high quality method for voice control of a PC?

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Post by tdj »

daanzu wrote: post #102
dataangel wrote: post #99

I have an RSI and I've been coding by voice exclusively for about 7 years. I used a system built on top of Dragon for most of that and in the last year switched to Talon. I think there are multiple reasons: * The obvious market is dictation of natural language, but this isn't what you want for voice control. If you try to use long descriptive phrases as your command language everything takes forever. So instead you e…

"Everything other than talon has terrible latency": False! I develop kaldi-active-grammar ( https://github.com/daanzu/kaldi-active-grammar ), a free and open source speech recognition backend, which has extremely low latency. You can adjust how aggressive the VAD (voice activity detection) is to suit your preference, but the speech engine latency can be almost negligible, especially for voice commands (vs prose dicta…

I built a similar app using a Kaldi's nnet3 model running embedded; the thing was so responsive that our demo to an SVP went sideways: when he gave a query, the app responded nearly immediately after the sentence ended. The SVP did not realize it already responded, as the expectation for voice interaction systems was that it takes like 2-5 seconds to get an answer, which made the impression that the system did not work properly.

So, moral of the story, if you do a too good job of making a fast speech engine, especially for multi-turn dialogues, add some delays so it resembles human dialogue more.

Re: Ask HN: Why is there no high quality method for voice control of a PC?

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Post by nosianu »

sapiol wrote: post #118
nosianu wrote: post #27

Voice input is good for high level tasks and goals, requiring a high level comprehension. For detailed work though the more direct method of translating movements is far more efficient. When you can describe an abstract end goal voice is great. When you have to actually do all the individual steps towards some high level goal then it's like telling a newbie programmer through some high level database optimization. Yo…

Offtopic: Hi, again. That didn't work as there is a 30m time-limit on byom.de. Can you please contact me again, but this time here: D-8ynpb9p087ukef2v@maildrop.cc

Just get a regular account instead of those public services. Some random name at gmx.de for example. With the "d-" mail never appears, without it it works but the mail body was "undefined" when I checked what that service showed. I deleted it again.

I also have such a throwaway-but-real account in my "About" under my user name here, just added it. Should have done that anyway, you just reminded me that I should.

Re: Ask HN: Why is there no high quality method for voice control of a PC?

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Post by philonoist »

For those who need immediate help for RSI, use ->

Voice Finger by Cozendy [$9.99]

Lenovo Voice Control from msstore [free]

Amazon Alexa from msstore [free]

"Win Key + h" for the inbuilt text box dictation [inbuilt]

serenade.ai [$$]

I don't have an exact answer to you OP but I hope someone builds a helpful one for you.

Re: Ask HN: Why is there no high quality method for voice control of a PC?

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Post by dataangel »

daanzu wrote: post #102
dataangel wrote: post #99

I have an RSI and I've been coding by voice exclusively for about 7 years. I used a system built on top of Dragon for most of that and in the last year switched to Talon. I think there are multiple reasons: * The obvious market is dictation of natural language, but this isn't what you want for voice control. If you try to use long descriptive phrases as your command language everything takes forever. So instead you e…

"Everything other than talon has terrible latency": False! I develop kaldi-active-grammar ( https://github.com/daanzu/kaldi-active-grammar ), a free and open source speech recognition backend, which has extremely low latency. You can adjust how aggressive the VAD (voice activity detection) is to suit your preference, but the speech engine latency can be almost negligible, especially for voice commands (vs prose dicta…

Sorry, should have said everything I have tried :)

At some point when I have enough free time I will have to take a look at this! Thanks for putting time into this kind of thing!

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