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Ask HN: Whatever happened to exploring the internet?

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Re: Ask HN: Whatever happened to exploring the internet?

#121
Here's one I found recently:

You can go to John Deakins' website and talk about cinematography. No money, no subscriptions, no ads, just make an account and log in and he talks to people who have an interest in amateur photography and film about his tricks and gadgets in his forum.

Re: Ask HN: Whatever happened to exploring the internet?

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post #117

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> The other half is that people stopped making cool internet things Nah, it was always a small group of people making cool internet things. Now they are just drowned out by the commercial internet.

Actually, more people are making cool internet things than ever. The internet is in a golden age of creative expression across every conceivable medium. Anything you can think of - art, music, video, games, ARGs, fiction and unfiction. But they're not putting those things on quirky hand-coded websites , so Hacker News doesn't care. The idea that most of the modern web is boring, uninteresting and not worth anyone's t…

Neat! So uh, where is that stuff? Link us!

Re: Ask HN: Whatever happened to exploring the internet?

#123

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This isn't true. Something creative, some web toy, gets linked on HN's front page at least once a day. Usually more often. Even in the hellscapes of Twitter or Facebook, you'll find interesting writing, weird animations, or new illustrations. There's immense creativity released daily. Too much for one person to ever keep up with. Just because strip malls are plentiful, doesn't mean good architecture no longer exists.…

Smaller subreddits are a great counterexample as well. Many are teeming with user creations, be it art, short stories, personal projects, etc. Just about anything and everything can be found there, and much of it is people just doing their thing for no profit besides an integer counter on their post.

Link us!

Re: Ask HN: Whatever happened to exploring the internet?

#125
We think alike. Watch this space in coming months for announcement of a Alpha test of a solution. Code is running apparently as intended and currently am collecting the initial data, uh, a lot more than the 6 sites! Solution is novel in several important respects.

Re: Ask HN: Whatever happened to exploring the internet?

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post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, more people are making cool internet things than ever. The internet is in a golden age of creative expression across every conceivable medium. Anything you can think of - art, music, video, games, ARGs, fiction and unfiction. But they're not putting those things on quirky hand-coded websites , so Hacker News doesn't care. The idea that most of the modern web is boring, uninteresting and not worth anyone's t…

Neat! So uh, where is that stuff? Link us!

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Re: Ask HN: Whatever happened to exploring the internet?

#127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is half the explanation. The other half is that people stopped making cool internet things just out of the passion and craft of it. Now everything on the internet is "content," a hyper optimized form of human intellectual output that is devoid of art, minimal on information, excreted instead of created, measured to the lowest common denominator, monetized yet worthless, just enough bait on the hook for t…

This isn't true. Something creative, some web toy, gets linked on HN's front page at least once a day. Usually more often. Even in the hellscapes of Twitter or Facebook, you'll find interesting writing, weird animations, or new illustrations. There's immense creativity released daily. Too much for one person to ever keep up with. Just because strip malls are plentiful, doesn't mean good architecture no longer exists.…

>This isn't true. Something creative, some web toy, gets linked on HN's front page at least once a day.

it's pretty undeniable that the web was more unique before the tooling and resources existed for laymen to easily spin up a site using an off-the-shelf solution, style-sheet, template, etc.

The grainy photo of slipknot may have been the same one from site to site -- digital media was uncommon and was generally scavenged from band sites and similar -- but many of those sites had hand-written code to facilitate the photo. Handwritten code that was unique and different from site to site.

Yeah, there is more artwork and toys on the internet now -- that's a function of the massive surge in popularity and accessibility and the world's populations finally getting to 'come online' -- but 'uniqueness'? That's way down ever since GeoCities and getting worse every day since.

It's now trivial to go find 1000s of Hugo/Gatsby/Hexo/Jekyll that all use the same exact style sheets and templates, but with different data on each site.

That's nice from an accessibility stand-point, but we lost a degree of uniqueness and creativity without a doubt.

Re: Ask HN: Whatever happened to exploring the internet?

#128

I will sometimes start with a zone file, like com.zone. I search for keywords in registered domainnames. Then I filter by nameserver (registrar). Finally, I run a script to fetch the page titles. You would be surprised at how effective this can be in finding websites that you would never be able to find using simple Google searches. Of course, it is cumbersome; search engines can make this process very easy but they…

How can I get a zone file?

You can request a copy from ICANN through the Centralized Zone Data Service (CZDS). It's a pretty neat service and will give you access to zone files for a few months, you just need to file a request to one/multiple TLDs you are interested in seeing.

Sometimes larger TLDs take a bit longer to respond to requests, whereas some others automatically accept all requests.

https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/czds-2014-03-03-en https://czds.icann.org/home

Re: Ask HN: Whatever happened to exploring the internet?

#129
Seems like we just have a better "map" now, but I don't otherwise agree with your idea at all.

HN has 30 or so unique sites linked from its front page that constantly are swapped out for other ones. You probably have never heard of many of them before. Why isn't this "exploring"?

Re: Ask HN: Whatever happened to exploring the internet?

#130
Really don't know what some here are talking about, you don't bookmark things that you have no time to look at anyway?

My exported bookmarks.html is 4 MB and that's probably on the small side, because some I lost, some I went through and deleted a few years back. There's also a lot that I saved on Reddit.

But it's pretty apparent that proper blogs a few and far between now and if you have some obscure knowledge, then you're better of writing Wikipedia pages about it, not starting your own site.

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