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Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?

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Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?

#121

M1 MacBook pro no competition

I'm typing this on a M1 MacBook pro, but only because that is what my employer mandates.

1) The M1 MacBook Air is better value and has a better keyboard.

2) Properly rugged business PCs are still better hardware (hardware is more than just the CPU).

3) Kubuntu or Linux Mint are a better OS.

Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?

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post #101

Latest-generation AMD CPU No discrete GPU, I don't want to pay neither money, electricity or weight for a thing I don't need. Reparability. Removeable SSD is absolute requirement. With a soldered SSD, broken laptop = lost data. Upgradeable RAM is less important but still very welcome. If I needed a new one I'd look at HP Probook, check their support channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxMMjSF4QFw

Just from the picture, this will fail my keyboard requirement. That is not a keyboard I'd type on.

Matter of taste, and use cases.

In my desktop I have mechanical switches in the keyboard, and relatively high requirements.

However, I only using laptop occasionally. This one so far https://i.alza.cz/ImgW.ashx?fd=FotoAddOrig&cd=NC106e7f5g-07&... the model with i3-6157U CPU. Funfact: after I bought that, required an e-mail conversation with Intel investor relations before the CPU appeared on https://ark.intel.com/

Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?

#123
If it has the Apple logo you'll be fine.

Seriously though, the Intel 16 inch MBP or the M1X 16 inch due to be released in a few days are the best choice hands down, if you can afford it.

Sounds like you could also benefit from an iPad Pro M1 plus pencil and LTE, which I can't recommend enough.

I would say since 2015, the premium laptops have improved further still, the display and battery life specs are outstanding and unprecedented.

But the cheap ass laptops like what Lenovo make after buying the Thinkpad name from IBM, are even more flimsy and a really bad deal all round. You want an M1X device, get that and load Linux if you need it. You can use a VM or native for some distros

Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?

#124

If it has the Apple logo you'll be fine. Seriously though, the Intel 16 inch MBP or the M1X 16 inch due to be released in a few days are the best choice hands down, if you can afford it. Sounds like you could also benefit from an iPad Pro M1 plus pencil and LTE, which I can't recommend enough. I would say since 2015, the premium laptops have improved further still, the display and battery life specs are outstanding a…

For me what matters is that it runs macOS reliably. I’m spoiled by its ergonomics and I run Adobe and other graphics intensive software which doesn’t run on Linux.

My 2015 MacBook pro still runs. I’m not looking forward to giving up the USB ports, the MagSafe, the hdmi and sdcard ports.

That said, I'm excited about the new generation - if I can use one laptop for coding, image processing and video editing, that would be worth my money.

Unfortunately the mass produced engineering disasters that Apple has become synonymous with (the keyboard fiasco, the short display cable, the insane repair prices) have diminished my trust with the company.

Most likely I’ll still give them my money.

Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?

#125

If it has the Apple logo you'll be fine. Seriously though, the Intel 16 inch MBP or the M1X 16 inch due to be released in a few days are the best choice hands down, if you can afford it. Sounds like you could also benefit from an iPad Pro M1 plus pencil and LTE, which I can't recommend enough. I would say since 2015, the premium laptops have improved further still, the display and battery life specs are outstanding a…

For me what matters is that it runs macOS reliably. I’m spoiled by its ergonomics and I run Adobe and other graphics intensive software which doesn’t run on Linux. My 2015 MacBook pro still runs. I’m not looking forward to giving up the USB ports, the MagSafe, the hdmi and sdcard ports. That said, I'm excited about the new generation - if I can use one laptop for coding, image processing and video editing, that would…

The keyboard issues are fixed. The 2019 16 inch MBP is the best laptop I ever used and I feel very privileged to have the opportunity.

Apple is expensive there's no getting around that. They have the best product on the market, it can't have been easy to design and manufacture, and they want to paid what it's worth. On the other hand, it is in fact worth every penny. Enjoy your new machine. I recommend the larger display models.

Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?

#126

For me the laptop must have at least these minimum features if money is no objection: 1) Weight about 1 kg. I do carry another e-ink reader in my bag thus a lighter laptop is a big plus. 2) Minimum 2K resolution. Once you have used 2K screen the Full HD just don't cut it anymore. 3) Military grade certification for drop. I once dropped my laptop bag from shoulder height containing less than a month laptop but because…

>128 GB RAM

What do you need, a mainframe?

Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?

#128
- decent design; no gamer laptops, blinking led monstrosities, etc. for me.

- decent performance; I'm an engineer. I actually lose time when things run slowly. Lots of time. Kills my flow and I bill a premium rate.

- decent screen. I look at this thing for the better part of a day. Also, I dabble with photography once in a while and occasionally some frontend stuff. So, HDPI/250 dpi or better.

- Decent ssd storage. I'm done with spinning disks. Not a thing in my life in the last decade.

- A keyboard and trackpad that are genuinely good. I use laptops as laptops and I hate having to plug in external peripherals for input.

- Linux compatible & hassle free.

Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?

#129
Modular. Because it implies repairable. User replaceable battery. Does not have to be ultra thin or paperweight.

Convergence. This extends modularity, increasing flexibility at the cost of size/weight. Enough USB-A/USB-C ports (Don't need a SIM, these work with MiFi or USB.)

Magnetic charger. Though USB-C can be made like that the magnets are relatively weak.

Trackpad (Apple Magic Trackpad 2 quality, good luck with that) or trackpoint.

Ryzen with Radeon GPU, alternatively Intel GPU or something like M1.

120 Hz OLED, at least 1440p.

That implies some decent specs, I need at least 16 GB RAM, and a SSD (both user replaceable).

Maybe in 2027... I got my hope on next gen Framework.

Re: Ask HN: What does one look for in a laptop these days?

#130
post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the premium you pay for the best.

What is with this knee-jerk defense of Apple every time someone suggests holding them to a higher consumer standard? You can sell good products while still embracing open technologies.

It's protection of one's investment. One doesn't just buy a laptop from Apple but one invests in all the devices, apps, ecosystem and brand. It's why past apple users express so much hurt when the company crosses a line. To leave or even to criticise hurts psychologicaly and financially. Thus it is logical to protect ones investment and defend the brand on social media.

This extends to many brands of course for example AWS or anything where time or the person is invested but it's most easily noticeable with Apple on HN.

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