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Re: Ask HN: Words of encouragement for someone lost in life?

#121
Some of my past experience that helped me overcome loneliness associated with programming:

People

- Friendship is a two-way street. Waiting passively is not the way to go. Don't be across of rejection. Someone has to initiate the process and there's nothing wrong with the person being you. Just imagine it is equally hard for others to start taking to you.

- Acquaintance conversion can be a thing. Do you hang out at the same cafe / restaurant often? Start talking more to people there, can be either the staff or the customers. If you are afraid, try with those that you have seen for a few times and more friendly looking. You might end up with a good friend or the worst case some discount or freebie.

Hobby beyond programming

- I think it's essential to have another hobby apart from programming, which involves going outside the room and seeing people. We need to feel the society in some way after being alone for too long. In my case I really enjoyed walking, and it doesn't have to be together with others. Just walk in some densely populated areas such as malls or CBD or tourist area. You will feel more lifted when you are physically close to other people. It's also a good chance to initiate conversations.

- Finding a hobby group. Other hobby suggestions include weight lifting or photography. Try finding a local group for such activities to avoid the feeling of loneliness. Meetup.com, Facebook, Instagram are some of the avenues.

Goal

- Try to set goals for yourself if you have lost purpose in life. It can be something challenging or silly. As with programming, you can be quantitative in the goals. For example, eating healthy for a month, saving 100k in one year. Personally I set a goal of retiring at 35 and it's doing wonders to my motivation to work and expanding my income streams.

(I might add more as I recall them)

Re: Ask HN: Words of encouragement for someone lost in life?

#122

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I have had a similar experience. Since I started having a daily conversation with ,,the void,, or ,,the universal good,, I have felt much better, even with everything going on in the world.

Interesting. I like this idea. Seems like it would be a very peaceful activity/thing.

Here is my rather straightforward practice. I consider myself addressing both the sysadmin and the hardware-software of my existence when I speak to anyone doing this.

I generally do it at the same time of day, though sometimes I make an exception and do it earlier or later, when I feel that my presence elsewhere is important for good.

I developed it after several years of studying several different meditation traditions, attending churches, and reading religious texts.

Ideally, I do this in a quiet room, sitting by myself, but that is not always possible, and I do not demand it. It can be done internally without altering anything in the physical.

For prayer, I tend towards a three-step process of gratitude-forgiveness-petition. First, I express gratitude for all my gifts and privilege throughout the day that I can think of.

Second, I ask for forgiveness for anything regretful... Missing out on acknowledging someone. Laziness in performing a necessary task. Allowing myself to ruminate or think negatively.

Then, it is time for requests. I ask for guidance and to see clearly into my intentions to ensure that they are joyful and good. And then I express them the best I can, being mindful to not be too specific, nor too attached to any particular outcome, because I cannot see the big picture.

After this, comes the other important part. Listening for a reply. Our existence is infinitely more complex than our language and human-human interaction allows, and so it may be hard to understand or even see the message. After all, you are taking on the role of an ant asking for help from a human, except infinitely more removed from each other. It is not always peaceful, sometimes it is overwhelming and I cry.

All this knowledge repeats again and again in texts both old and new, and if you allow yourself to consider the possibility that maybe, just maybe, people who lived more than 100 years ago were not complete buffoons and idiots, it can bring peace, joy, satisfaction, amazement, marvel... Even that feeling of "time slipping away faster every day" will recede. Take it from me, I was depressed through and through for a good 15-20 years straight almost without respite.

Good luck, and I'd love to hear your experiences.

May this knowledge help you and bring you joy!

Re: Ask HN: Words of encouragement for someone lost in life?

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If you are goal-oriented and don't already work out regularly or go to the gym, I would highly recommend it. The physical challenge really requires focus and can clear your head and your body is hardwired to find exercising pleasurable. As a goal-oriented activity, it can be easy to quantitatively track your progress, and the physicality means you can't grind at it everyday - you need rest days. Plus, you'll hopefull…

Know any good apps to gamify weight training? Strava really worked for me for running, now I'd like to replicate the experience with strength training.

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#124

I'm in your age range and sadly I'm hearing from A LOT of young men that Tinder is really damaging their self esteem (specifically the lack of matches most men get which can feel as bad as getting rejected face to face a thousand times to some men). It's also disgusting that these apps take advantage of vulnerable young men desperate for connection by up-selling them on an endlessly growing list of paid add-ons that…

Tinder has completely messed up dating in terms of spontaneously meeting people. The only chance normal guys have for dating now is via their friend groups and with girls who don't use Tinder (which is still a surprising percentage in certain circles of 'nerdier' girls)

Re: Ask HN: Words of encouragement for someone lost in life?

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I know this is not a popular opinion in general, but the most powerful antidote I know (well, more correctly the ONLY one I know) against self-disdain or similar feelings, is realizing that you are deeply loved by the Creator of heaven and earth himself. King David summarizes this very succinctly in his own way: "Though my father and mother forsake me, the Lord will receive me." The whole of Psalm 27 is very encourag…

And if one does not believe in god, one can indeed still marvel at the spectacular creation that is this universe and beautiful planet that we live on, and count ourselves lucky and blessed that we have a chance to live on it—- and are likely (if we are here posting on HN) in a more beneficial position/circumstance than many others on it...

I've heard it said that arms and legs are already a huge privilege and a lot to be grateful for.

Re: Ask HN: Words of encouragement for someone lost in life?

#126

I'm in your age range and sadly I'm hearing from A LOT of young men that Tinder is really damaging their self esteem (specifically the lack of matches most men get which can feel as bad as getting rejected face to face a thousand times to some men). It's also disgusting that these apps take advantage of vulnerable young men desperate for connection by up-selling them on an endlessly growing list of paid add-ons that…

This is extremely relatable and true. Thank you. The Tinder game is so horrible, 5% of the women get the attention of 80% of the men or more, leaving both the men and women in the other group feeling like there is something wrong with them. People feel the need to edit themselves in order to fit the false narrative created by these gamified dating scenarios, or else experience the fear of dying alone . There is nothi…

> [0] - https://youtu.be/oYp5XuGYqqY?t=349

While most of the talk is great, he just handwaves the idea that reality is not "brains and neurons," nor what physicists try to model, but he makes no effort in explaining what's the difference between "reality" and "physics."

It would be great if someone who understood that last part could explain it.

Re: Ask HN: Words of encouragement for someone lost in life?

#127
Most people on Tinder live the fakest of lives. They may portray themselves as someone "cool" with pictures of travelling, chilling and doing amazing things but I bet their real lives aren't quite like that. They might have travelled and done a few fun things but they don't really lead zen lives. Remember the motto is to just get women.

My 2c is to stop looking at social media and try to meet people in real life. Increase your connections and expand the network from there. Your loneliness will fade away in a matter of few weeks.

Re: Ask HN: Words of encouragement for someone lost in life?

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I was quite literally obsessed with programming. I would wake up in the morning, program all day, go to sleep, and repeat it the next day. This earned me many accolades in college and a great job afterward. But, like you, if I paused for a moment to reflect, I felt so incredibly empty and alone. The programming increasingly became an escapist activity to avoid these feelings. Then one day my old high school friend, w…

I’d like to slightly counter the enthusiastic responses to this comment. First, I do think there’s value to much of what you’re saying. With that said, if time spent writing code is becoming an escapist activity, and if one is escaping from sufficiently dark demons, consider speaking with a therapist as well. I realize this will not apply to all readers, but the trouble with this advice starts if there is depression…

Sedetary lifestyle might be the root cause, so the advice is probably spot on.

Re: Ask HN: Words of encouragement for someone lost in life?

#129
It's literally a therapist's job to help you figure this out, I don't want to undermine this.

Please speak to a professional, you are not alone.

In the meantime, here are some of my own "no bullshit mantras" I found comforting in similar times, mostly from Zen Bhuddism :

* You are not supposed to be anywhere. Your only real obligation is to be you, now.

* There is no "better" version of you now. There is no other way to be you now. In fact, there is no other way to be, but to be what you are.

* What you are is beautiful, no matter who you are. I don't mean the Aguilera song, I mean it's literally a miracle that you're here now.

* Everything is as it is. There's no point in feeling guilty for things being the way they are, rather than the way you or someone else would have them. In a world where time only flows one way, every "ought" is an illusion.

If you like these ideas, I highly recommend meditation, such ideas are much easier to contemplate with a calm mind. I hear Alan Watts has good talks about this available on Youtube. Mindfulness meditation has also been associated with improvements in mental health (you can find many studies about this on Google Scholar).

Re: Ask HN: Words of encouragement for someone lost in life?

#130
hello,

imho ad depression: 1. go get professional help

and imho. what applys to all people 2. meaning in live doesn't come "naturally" to anyone, you have to actively discover & decide what "floats your boat" in live.

for example, there are a lot of different "communities" providing an excuse for certain things - religions, spiritual communities, startups etc. -, but: everybody decides for his/_/her own what to do in live.

in the end you just have a few decades you can shape according to your own ideas ... and this time will pass regardless of your choices :)

cheersv

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