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Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by chrisco255 »

tehjoker wrote: post #90
syshum wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only if you consider everyone that does not support full on Authoritarian Communism "right wing", and allow for zero classic liberals, libertarians, and 100's other world views. This is the problem with the narrative on the internet today, anyone that is not collectivist, is not full on Socialist must be "Right wing"

During the monarchy, liberals were left wing (the "radical republicans"). After they won, liberals became the defenders of the status quo and are thus the right wing. There are people further right that wish to roll the clock backwards.

The Radical Republicans refers to a group of anti-slavery congressmen in the 1800s up to, during, and after the American Civil War. There was no monarchy at the time.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by kyuudou »

an_opabinia wrote: post #107
mxwsn wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zuckerberg owns Facebook in a way that no other major company (to my knowledge) is owned. He is a monarch that can override any and all board politics. While power sloshes around in other companies by tug of war, Zuckerberg's word is final. Given this, I don't think it's unusual that Zuckerberg would stick around. He, with Facebook, explore new possibility space in how a company can be run that few other companies in…

The way Elon Musk put it, who rarely says stuff that doesn't sound completely crazy, is that his grandchildren will be running Facebook. It's truly totally crazy.

His grandchildrens' AI, anyway

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by scotty79 »

ksec wrote: post #111
paxys wrote: post #9

It was clear years ago that neither he nor Brin were interested running Google day-to-day anymore. I'm actually surprised that every billionaire doesn't do the same after reaching a certain point of success. Like..is calling the shots at Facebook really that big a deal that Zuckerberg spends his life being dragged from one mess to another, put in front of Congress every other week, criticized across the political spe…

>It was clear years ago that neither he nor Brin were interested running Google day-to-day anymore. I'm actually surprised that every billionaire doesn't do the same after reaching a certain point of success. “For the past 33 years, I have looked in the mirror every morning and asked myself: ‘If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?’ And whenever the answer has been ‘No’…

> ‘If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?’

Am I weird for rarely ever answering 'No' to that question? These days I mostly play computer games and still I'd answer 'Yes'.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by chrisco255 »

scarface74 wrote: post #65
zanmat0 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>He also made a hard right-wing turn. Is that problematic in and of itself?

He still believes in the QAnon and PizzaGate conspiracy. That is kind of “problematic”.

Some people still think Trump is a Russian agent, on account of 3 years of conspiracy theories being promoted by the left wing media and their loyalists in the CIA and FBI. That's extremely problematic. QAnon and PizzaGate are fringe at best (and its not entirely clear how consequential they are), but probably half the country still does not realize that the Obama administration (and its loyalists) illegally spied on the Trump campaign, entrapped members of Trump admin (General Flynn), and did worse than Nixon could have ever dreamed of.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by scotty79 »

paxys wrote: post #9

It was clear years ago that neither he nor Brin were interested running Google day-to-day anymore. I'm actually surprised that every billionaire doesn't do the same after reaching a certain point of success. Like..is calling the shots at Facebook really that big a deal that Zuckerberg spends his life being dragged from one mess to another, put in front of Congress every other week, criticized across the political spe…

I guess calling shots at Facebook is pretty unique experience and he likes it.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by caconym_ »

Yetanfou wrote: post #63
tehjoker wrote: post #38

Notch is said to be a deeply unhappy person, or at least he was a few years ago. He also made a hard right-wing turn. https://money.cnn.com/2015/08/31/technology/minecraft-creato... https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/04/online-conduct-leaves...

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The rest of us have a right to set ourselves apart from people who spread hate and ignorance, and if "the right" wants to identify itself with such views then that's a problem it created for itself. Equating racist, misogynist, paranoid insanity delivered 280 characters at a time with any sort of intellectually substantive "right-conservatism" is really a slur against all people who label themselves as the latter, but I guess when you're all tangled up in ideological confusion that kind of introspection gets very difficult.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by ilamont »

Maybe he's one of the regulars here on HN using an anonymous handle, taking part in these conversations without anyone judging him or his actions.

Well-known people have used pseudonyms for ages to preserve their privacy (for instance, when staying in hotels) or sometimes to manipulate public opinion -- writing letters to the editor under various names and personalities was a favorite tactic of Ben Franklin, even to the newspapers he owned!

More recently, Mitt Romney's alt Twitter account "Pierre Delecto" was uncovered after he gave away too many clues: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/mitt-romney-has-...

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by username90 »

He got sick with an incurable disease which makes him sound like a 80 year old chain smoker, I heard he got a lot less active since then. I bet it made him realize how little money and power can actually do for him so he is focusing more on stuff that matters in his life.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Larry Page?

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Post by ogre_codes »

ry_co wrote: post #102
ogre_codes wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You cannot give something away without realizing it. Google's collection of shadow data on people is not "Given" to them. Most people don't know when and how they collect it. I didn't "Give" Google data any more than I gave data to the guy who drove by my car and collected the plate number when I went to the store a few weeks ago.

Alternatively, data could be considered not to exist until it is collected. In this way Larry is neither stealing it nor are you giving it. I personally find this interpretation more compelling. Otherwise you'd get weird conclusions, like Darwin stealing evolution from nature, rather than being the creator of the idea and the data that supports it.

We're off in the weeds now.

The point here is that there was no agreement about this... or even knowledge about the collection of data. There was unilateral action on the part of Google/ Facebook to secretly create data collection points all over our lives.

The person I replied to suggested we volunteered this information to Google. Which is almost entirely untrue. Most people Google and Facebook track have zero knowledge they are being tracked.

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