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Prior to acquiring some tools for my most recent technological stretch, I had a cheap phone and a 10+ year old desktop I rarely used for several years around 2008-2010 give or take on either side.

I was doing different things during that period. Not much interesting sometimes—factory work, late shift. I'd sleep most of the day, go to work over night, get in around 4 AM, have a beer and taught myself mandolin and played guitar.

After a stretch of that I moved back to the city and worked in a warehouse in Film/TV and started a band with one of my old friends.

I was never completely without one, but my access was heavily limited. Other things will just fill up your time. For me: reading, music, writing, ...drinking, socializing.

What's funny is when I climbed up a few steps in my Film/TV job I was given a company iPhone which I ended up relying on solely for all of my contact information, etc. One day they decided to unilaterally rescind it because they suspected I would be leaving the company and I never retrieved my contact info for many old friends—especially after having left Facebook and all that. Won't be making that mistake again.

And then of course, growing up in rural Southwestern Ontario in the 90's saw limited access to most things computer. We just went outside a lot. I enjoy what I do, but I really miss that last part...

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever gone without a computer or phone for an extended period?

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> But don't take Anarcho-primitivism seriously. Why shouldn't it be taken seriously when it's the only variety of anarchism that's actually self-consistent? You can't run a large, mass society on anarchist principles, because social organization on a large scale will always require some way of formally resolving disputes, and that pretty much implies that conventional politics and "rule" by some over others will be a…

A self-consistent philosophy based on a world with a 99.5% lower population seems like a step backwards for that 99.5%, regardless of how good it is for the freedom and equality of the remaining 0.5% of the population? I mean, in my mind that's right up there with negative utilitarianism's benevolent world-exploder in terms of clever ideas that aren't good ideas.

Unfortunately sometimes the only way to find out that a clever idea is not a good idea is to test it via implementation.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever gone without a computer or phone for an extended period?

#123
Yes, for approximately three years. They were some of the happiest, cleanest, and most productive years of my life. I felt happy in the same way I think people felt happy before the technology existed. I eventually came back, because I was worried that I would miss a critical email. I often think about throwing it all away again, but now I'm a programmer so it's not as easy. I was working as a filing clerk when I tried the experiment. It was mostly to save money as I paid back my first degree.

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I make it a point to control my technology, rather than the reverse. Every single week I go without technology for ~25-26 hours. Frequently, as part of my religion, I have 2-3 day periods in the year (probably ~5 of those). I make it a point to take a one week vacation in places where even if I wanted to, I couldn't internet (they still exist!).

Every ~5 years or so, we ditch the universe for a month, and live, rather happily without computers, phones, and email. The reality is that a computer is no more or less of a tool to me than a hammer or a basin wrench. It just happens to be the tool with which I make my living.

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#125
My PC broke 6 months ago. It's forced me to stop gaming and focus on work (as that is all my laptop can handle.)

I've seen an improvement in physical health and productivity, as well as a noticeable increase in "pleasure" from doing work.

This shift has led me to believe that videogames, atleast for me, were a net negative. I will still hop on Steam to chat with friends, but I don't feel the addictive pull to play that i did in the first few months.

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Sans phone and laptop connectivity for about 6 months. Was working on a farm in Australia during a working holiday visa. Not my main goal, either -- I was there to do NBN work building fiber optic networks. But Abbott froze the project and I figured I'd give farm work a try for a little while. Didn't hurt that I was dating a Canadian girl who was a cook on the farm station. I had a phone and laptop with me, but no co…

>Not a bad experience but not a great one, either.

I think this is different because the circumstances chose it for you as opposed to actively feeling the need to disconnect.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever gone without a computer or phone for an extended period?

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Came here more or less to say this. I really think a pre-Internet, pre-highly connected brain is different from one where the Internet is ubiquitous. I am not saying it is better, but it is different. The idea that to look something up you have to remember it or note it down by your family's telephone on a slip of paper, go to the library, find a reference book you can't even take home with you, research it in that a…

Yeah the 80s are definitely outside of my frame of reference, growing up in the 90s alongside the growth of household computers and the internet, living with technology has been the baseline for me. It's interesting to hear the experience of those who grew up on the other side of that divide and have an insight into both of those worlds.

Even during most of the 90s, you had computers but not always with real connectivity on either laptops or phones. Thus, while I definitely was around and used computers in the 90s, they weren't omnipresent and connectivity was pretty much of the tethered sort.

Thus I did unplug during that period for several month-long trips to Asia but the baseline level of connectivity/online information/ubiquity/social media/etc. was much less than in the 2000s (especially the latter part of the decade).

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It might be a bit unorthodox and I would possibly get flagged for writing this but I found the ideas of Kaczynski on impact of technology on us very profound and thought-provoking[0]. I try to separate the "art" from the "artist" and do not condone his violent actions thereafter. But this idea has been around in various shapes where people debate if its true that techonology is evolving at a much faster rate than our…

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