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Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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Post by luka-birsa »

Operyl wrote: post #111
luka-birsa wrote: post #110

Large format E-ink displays are currently used primarily in digital signage scenarios (outdoor advertising, passenger information systems,...) - examples are Soofa ( http://www.soofa.co/ ) and Mercury Innovation ( https://www.mercuryinnovation.com.au/digital-bus-stop ). The largest size currently available is 42" and it is used in outdoor and indoor scenarios. Indoor use is for education purposes as a digital whitebo…

What a cool product for meeting rooms! But .. and maybe I'm just not the target audience, there's no way in any universe am I paying 250 bucks for a "do not disturb sign" in my house. That's just way too expensive.

Yup. We did get a lot of that with our meeting room solution. We'll be expanding the feature set over the near future, to entice home users to go for something like this even with a price tag of 250.

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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Post by luka-birsa »

yayr wrote: post #115
luka-birsa wrote: post #110

Large format E-ink displays are currently used primarily in digital signage scenarios (outdoor advertising, passenger information systems,...) - examples are Soofa ( http://www.soofa.co/ ) and Mercury Innovation ( https://www.mercuryinnovation.com.au/digital-bus-stop ). The largest size currently available is 42" and it is used in outdoor and indoor scenarios. Indoor use is for education purposes as a digital whitebo…

I‘d love to see such a device based on Android with 5 years update guarantee. Users could easily use it for any of your envisioned use cases and you could focus on your hardware competency

Android will never work in a cordless scenario. We have device with 3 months autonomy and the next gen device currently nearing production drastically increases that as well. We've evaluated everything embedded, especially Android (love the ecosystem), but there is literary no tech that would give you full operation and full wifi connectivity, months of autonomy off a standard phone battery and Android. We had to develop a lot of proprietary stuff...

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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Post by Operyl »

luka-birsa wrote: post #121
Operyl wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What a cool product for meeting rooms! But .. and maybe I'm just not the target audience, there's no way in any universe am I paying 250 bucks for a "do not disturb sign" in my house. That's just way too expensive.

Yup. We did get a lot of that with our meeting room solution. We'll be expanding the feature set over the near future, to entice home users to go for something like this even with a price tag of 250.

I can't even imagine what you'd add to make it useful for 250 dollars. Like, look.. If I don't want to be disturbed, I close my door. If I am OK with being disturbed, it is open. That's not going to cost me 250 bucks. If the product were in the 100 bucks range, maybe I'd bite, but it is far from that. This is trying to be pitched to me as a home solution, but with the price tag of what I'd consider for a company instead.

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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Post by heavenlyblue »

keanzu wrote: post #118
heavenlyblue wrote: post #106

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So Clay Bavor did _not_ invent that

"A year ago over the holiday break, I created a large-scale digital “canvas”" posted December 27, 2015 https://www.claybavor.com/blog/a-canvas-made-of-pixels He claims to have invented it prior to Apple, but he didn't publish before they got their patent in.

What makes him think they didn’t invent it earlier? It takes time to publish a patent.

People like that are the worst. The sorest losers. I have unfortunately known quite a few of them and they tend to overestimate their abilities by a lot.

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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Post by technobabble »

I use a DPT-RP1 13”. I use it everyday, however the pen has an adequate writing experience and the build quality isn’t great. I’ve used the ReMarkable before and it has a much better build quality and a better writing experience.

Foe just an electronic whiteboard there are Boogieboards.

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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Post by sureklix »

Good question, I wonder the same. I would say E-ink is still the best bet in terms of no-light emission property. Someone from ReMarkable could give really good insights as they are the hottest startup building a product within this space. Other than that possibly the cheapest option would be to tile old kindles and find a way to interface with them...

Sad that Amazon makes Kindle very closed to modification in terms of software. Therefore I am a huge fan of ReMarkable because an underdog may allow us to finally build e-ink apps: https://github.com/reHackable/awesome-reMarkable

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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Post by areactnativedev »

amenod wrote: post #98
SequoiaHope wrote: post #79

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A great example of patents strangling innovation. If anyone has more concrete details on the way this company is holding back this technology I’d love to read details. Thanks!

The irony is that they are probably limiting their profit too. With lower prices the number of applications would skyrocket and they would get much bigger income. The only reason I can think of is that scaling the production would be difficult for some reason?

From skimming through their website, it looks like they target business applications with bigger displays (Health Care, Transportation, Industrial & Packaging, ...) which I would assume are high margin contracts.

So maybe another reason would be that offering lower prices for big displays would reduce profits from these business clients more than it would increase profits from the additional low-margin mass-market volumes.

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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Post by PaulStatezny »

blurbleblurble wrote: post #69
catmanjan wrote: post #18

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Could you write a review on it? I've been contemplating getting one for the same purposes but I'd really like to hear some pros and cons before committing

Pros: it's super light, works outside, runs off of USB power, feels good on the eyes, has a high resolution and a very decent refresh rate. Convenient contrast buttons on the front and a quick clear button. It's VEGA mountable. But I got a lead weight so it's heavy enough for my adjustable monitor stand. Quirks: Expect ghosting. You'll have to press the "clear" button if the only thing moving on the screen is the mou…

Thank you so much for the detail.

Could you expand on the "easier on the eyes" part? What did your eyes feel like at the end of a work day before acquiring this monitor versus now?

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