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Ask HN: What happens next after a successful lockdown?

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Re: Ask HN: What happens next after a successful lockdown?

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Today and yesterday I have seen countless people who just dont care. Viral pandemic currently causing society to shut down? Let's go meet in a cafe! And that's not even the, sorry, assholes at the supermarkets. It was insane today.

The supermarket is not necessarily an optional trip. People have to eat, and if they're not eating in cafes, they're going to get their food at the market.

And looking for TP and other paper products.

Re: Ask HN: What happens next after a successful lockdown?

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The virus isn’t serious enough to warrant or motivate total quarantine so a ton of people are going to get it. Then we’ll have collective immunity and things will go back to normal. 3 to 6 months from now.

Do you assume full recovery?

Re: Ask HN: What happens next after a successful lockdown?

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How long did the HIV vaccine take? Use that as a yard stuck. A lockdown isn't 'successful' it does little, except drag society into the dirt while a little time is bought to work things out. Time China bought us but we squandered. If you're lucky it's a winter desease so it'll become summer and it'll die off. But that's coin flipping a little. Treatments might be found but it's hard to know how fast, especially while…

Each virus is different, and apparently it is easier to find a vaccine against covid19 than HIV. Covid19 is similar to SARS and other cororavirus, so virologist have a good guess about how much time it will take. Probably not less than a year, don't expect to see it next month magically as other people. Here says 18 months approximately https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/when-will-a-co... I guess it will take longer, like 2 years.

Re: Ask HN: What happens next after a successful lockdown?

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It's your typical pandemic response: - denial - placating measures - minor lockdowns - major lockdowns and panic (running to the store to stockpile toilet paper, for some reason) - total quarantine - life slowly returns to normal China is now on the final stage (restaurants and stores reopening, etc), with the rest of the world between 2 and 3 months behind. Most people are unable to comprehend exponential growth, so…

> - major lockdowns and panic (running to the store to stockpile toilet paper, for some reason)

Americans use lots of toilet paper.

Re: Ask HN: What happens next after a successful lockdown?

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post #105

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It's not that simple. First of all, most people do not develop permanent immunity to the cold which is usually one of the first 4 known human transmissible corona viruses. So there is no reason to think we'll develop long term immunity to this one either. Second, our reaction has be abysmal which, similar to the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic, massively increases the chance of a second or even third wave of massive infect…

Corona viruses are not “the cold.” Rhinovirus causes the common cold and corona viruses cause 10% of cold cases. Just like other corona viruses, they make a recurring appearance. But this is not because they mutate in the way the flu does. No corona viruses mutate in the way that the flu does. If you have some evidence to prove me wrong then produce it. You definitely develop immunity to viruses that sicken you. For…

> If there is a second wave it will only be because of overly aggressive quarantining.

Common cold causing coronaviruses have recurring waves every 2-4 years. If they don't mutate like flu it means that immunity is not that long lasting.

Re: Ask HN: What happens next after a successful lockdown?

#127

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The more optimistic way of looking at this is: the 'flatten the curve' scenario has to get so close to R0 This is difficult, not impossible. We'll see what actually happens.

Looking at the people happily strolling around and gathering in public cafes as if nothing was going on, I severely doubt it. (large city in Germany btw)

Those Darwin award winners will be the first to get it.

Re: Ask HN: What happens next after a successful lockdown?

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Total quarantine isn't happening in any western country

Rumors are it's about to happen in France

rumors are dead as it really happened : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22599579

Re: Ask HN: What happens next after a successful lockdown?

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You mean like aciclovir for herpes, or the various antivirals for HIV, or the monoclonal antibodies for ebola?

They are suppressors of symptoms/disease management helpers not cures. Ebola patients either die or their immune system fights off the disease.

Isn't this similar to a typical antibiotics regimen? The abx kill a lot of bacteria with an X-log reduction and the immune system takes out what's left?

I'm not an expert on this, just curious.

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