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Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by ageitgey »

pjc50 wrote: post #79
ljw1001 wrote: post #70

Trying to understand politics by watching the Web stream go flowing by is pointless. You need high-quality, big picture stuff that requires effort to produce and consume. In the US, the NYTimes and the Washington Post are the best sources. To ensure you're exposure is 'fair and balanced' I would add the Economist for a more conservative, but not xenophobic or straight-up nonsensical viewpoint. It has the nice additio…

NYT will happily publish "high-quality big picture" antisemitism of the oldest and most eugenic sort: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/dec/28/bret-stephens-...

NYT publishes all kinds of inflammatory stuff it its Op-Ed section. I don't think you should read the Op-Ed section too seriously (or at all). It's not up to the same bar as the rest of their reporting. It's their way to compete for clicks in a click-driven economy. Stick to the news sections.

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by jknoepfler »

sunkenvicar wrote: post #69
jknoepfler wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How on earth can anyone present fox news as a serious news site? It's the living incarnation of for-profit shock journalism. It doesn't even pretend to have actual content. (I'd be just as irritated if someone said comedy central... Which is probably slightly more accurate, but still utterly idiotic)

Fox News is by far the most popular cable TV news network. Many people also read their website. Would you like to share your news sources?

"By far" - false

"Popular" - lol, chinese state media is an order of magnitude more popular, do you think it's an order of magnitude more trustworthy?

I personally read the economist, ny times, and wsj for short-cycle online content. I listen to npr in the car, and then... I don't know, read constantly? Everything? Tech blogs? trade journals? History books? Literature? Religious shit? I struggle to keep up with the world in a meaningful way. Don't you?

Fox anything drowns itself in the vulgar idiocy of certitude. I can imagine no lesser epistemological sin in 2020.

Read and listen to get data, not to absorb obvious horseshit

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Post by chrisweekly »

lukeqsee wrote: post #97
chrisweekly wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

conservative bias

> bias …is not by definition bad. Every publication publishes with bias (recognized and announced or not). Prejudice and unannounced (or not well-known) is what you want to avoid. Reading a "conservative bias" is a good thing, if only to better understand that point of view, regardless of if you agree or not.

Agreed! I respect Andrew Sullivan, who said something like "transparency is the new objectivity."

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by pjc50 »

uncle_j wrote: post #116
pjc50 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Either: (a) not announce "interviewing all the leaders" until all the leaders were confirmed. This could be a competence rather than a bias issue; wasn't it Fyre Festival who were announcing acts who they hadn't booked to perform? (b) empty-chair him (c) given that Gove and Stanley Johnson (who has no formal position in the party, he's just Johnson's father and now a minor celebrity) turned up to protest outside, the…

I am not in the UK Conservative Party but I actually know a few people who are and I hear enough of what going on in the party. I don't particularly like the conservative party however I signed up for account because of egregiously wrong you are. a) Various leaders agreed to go on a show. Boris Johnson doesn't have to go on the BBC and the BBC can interview who they wish. Andrew Neil likes to make fools of people on…

> I am using some fairly simple word analysis techniques (most of the effort is scraping the data from these sites and deciding what constitutes a real news story) and most of the language on the BBC and the Guardian are similar. I suspect that most of them just copy and paste stories tbh.

There is a more serious underlying problem you've spotted, which is "jounalism as stenography". Lots of people can put out press releases, which then really do get copy-pasted into articles. Same with "wire copy" sourced from AP or Reuters. This can be abused by bad actors to get obvious or difficult-to-refute falsehoods into the public memetic consciousness by repeating them.

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by simonsarris »

Quit news. Quit politics. Don't have a "media diet." Make stuff and try to be around people who make stuff instead. To lay a single cobblestone path is to have more virtue than a million hot takes. Most causes are not thought-out enough to advocate, certainly not to scream about. The cobblestone path may outlive you. Politics and news, for all of their rage and sense of urgency, turn with the leaves.

If you want to do good in this world, work on technology, or art, or building something beautiful or durable, like a family. Good comes through these things, not from the political churn, not from quests for power.

If you want to keep up with things, keep up with technology (hi HN), keep up with real people who are doing stuff. It doesn't have to be hyper impressive stuff, just living and making things. Twitter is the most intellectual, and underrated, social network, because people follow too many political accounts and celebrities instead of other people, so if you're looking for an action item that's a good start.

Follow real people. Do real things. Try to inspire and be inspired. Leave the news behind.

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by basch »

To directly answer your question: https://scitechdaily.com/ http://memeorandum.com/ (and culture from https://redef.com/ https://aldaily.com)

Like the "avoid it" answer, I also like to read criticism instead of news, whether it be book reviews, movie reviews, album reviews, video game reviews. Partially to increase my literary skills, and partially to help me notice more around me as I consume entertainment. A&LDaily New Book reviews in particular. I read a lot more book, film, and game reviews than I read, watch, or play.

Longform and Longreads are great ways to find more magazine like researched stories, instead of daily infotainment style "news."

Full List

https://techmeme.com/river

https://hckrnews.com

https://redef.com/

https://aldaily.com

https://scitechdaily.com

https://longform.org

https://longreads.com

https://mediagazer.com/river

https://memeorandum.com/river

The aldaily media list (https://www.aldaily.com/media/) and redef sources chart (https://redef.com/charts/sources/total) are also good pages.

For film specifically https://letterboxd.com/ https://www.rottentomatoes.com/ https://www.metacritic.com/

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by basch »

yorwba wrote: post #75
vwpolo3 wrote: post #68

The problem is that online news sources are (almost) all the same - low budget, second tier silos of mostly trainee journalists. They have an emphasis on clicks and outrage and constant updates to keep you engaged and are a secondary (or tertiary) driver of revenue. The only exception I know of are The New York Times and maybe The Intercept. My tip is to read a (or more) actual (read: printed) newspapers: - they are…

https://newshound.co/editions/en-us/ is pretty good for seeing how many news articles published by different outlets are actually written by AP/Reuters/etc. and only modified slightly. I think the site was originally intended to allow users to choose the article from their preferred outlet, but I rarely find myself interested in reading any of the grouped articles.

I like the same thing about https://techmeme.com/ if I click the arrow next to a story, it shows me everyone covering it, but they use editorial discretion to chose the "best" coverage, whether that be the first copy, or the first good copy.

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by basch »

ljw1001 wrote: post #70

Trying to understand politics by watching the Web stream go flowing by is pointless. You need high-quality, big picture stuff that requires effort to produce and consume. In the US, the NYTimes and the Washington Post are the best sources. To ensure you're exposure is 'fair and balanced' I would add the Economist for a more conservative, but not xenophobic or straight-up nonsensical viewpoint. It has the nice additio…

Conservative Perspective: WSJ, Economist, The Hill, Reason, and National Review
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