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Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

#111
post #92

I think you mean, "Many casualties on the Palestinian side." Has ANYONE been killed in Israel? While Gaza is bombarded and dozens are dead, including children. Don't try to equate the oppressor with the oppressed.

Nor is the oppressor the side with fewer casualties. Germany lost far more soldiers and civilians in the Second World War, yet that racist regime were clealy the oppressors, whose end came only by force. So it is with Hamas.

It's annoying when people we don't like win elections isn't it? EDIT: Which countries weren't racist in the second world war? All the allied countries I know anything about certainly were.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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post #72
post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And Wikipedia is a credible resource for providing accurate numbers? How about you spend a couple of hours tonight monitoring #GazaUnderAttack ( https://twitter.com/search?q=%23gazaunderattack&src=typd ) on Twitter, and let's both count the number of casualties (in the pictures) for the night. May I remind you these are human beings; children, women and young girls murdered, they're not soldiers @pron. Numbers are ir…

The irony of pointing out that Wikipedia lacks perfect credibility and then citing twitter posts as a source! Those pictures under the #GazaUnderAttack are often fake (e.g. from other conflicts, such as Syria) as pointed out by the BBC [1] just yesterday. Twitter posts are about as useful and hysterical (and in the literal meaning, not funny) as YouTube comments and for the large part do nothing to promote useful dis…

I'm going to be as hand wavy as the BBC here: but in the past there has been fake Palestinian twitter accounts tweeting nonsense like this. It's a systemic way to discredit a source and deny the murders. I'm guessing, it's a form of electornic Mista'arvim http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mista%27arvim

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

#113
post #23

I'm curious, is this service service equally available/relevant to civilians on both sides of the conflict, or only one? I don't ask to be judgmental, I recognize that politically/legally it may not even be possible to serve both sides. I just wondered if the automated nature of the service allows for it to be apolitical.

Unfortunately, it caters mostly to the Israeli side, as it is in Hebrew and relies on Hebrew sources of information. I would very much be interested in helping build a similar system for Palestinians in Gaza, but from past attempts to organize similar cooperations, help is not necessarily wanted. That being said, I am aware of several Palestinian users in Gaza who do follow this account for various purposes.

I imagine there is a lot of data available on the Israeli side but not as much on the Palestinian side.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

#114
post #39

I'm curious, is this service service equally available/relevant to civilians on both sides of the conflict, or only one? I don't ask to be judgmental, I recognize that politically/legally it may not even be possible to serve both sides. I just wondered if the automated nature of the service allows for it to be apolitical.

Well the conflict itself is not apolitical.

True, but not wanting to get hit by explosive projectiles seems to be universal. If you could make a tool that addressed that need without regard to which side of a dispute users were on it might have a de-escalatory effect. Then again maybe I'm wrong and it would just cause technological escalation instead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cyberiad#Stories_involving_...

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

#115
post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nor is the oppressor the side with fewer casualties. Germany lost far more soldiers and civilians in the Second World War, yet that racist regime were clealy the oppressors, whose end came only by force. So it is with Hamas.

It's annoying when people we don't like win elections isn't it? EDIT: Which countries weren't racist in the second world war? All the allied countries I know anything about certainly were.

It's more than annoying when said people proceed to summarily exterminate and/or expel all members of the democratically elected government belonging to the rival party, and bring about a quasi-religious violent regime which kills its own people for ideological ends.

Also, it is not ok to use your own civilian population as human shields, raise a generation of kids to become violent martyrs for your cause, and sacrifice their lives for your ideological war, which include things like the "elimination of a Jewish state in Israel".

Hamas killing Palestinians living in Gaza who are having a wedding, which wasn't Islamic enough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEud-cEjwQU

Indoctrinating children to hate and "kill Jews" to "liberate Palestine": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomorrow's_Pioneers

By the way, in Hamas' view, "liberate Palestine" means to rid it of a Jewish state completely. If they took all that money to actually improve the education and quality of life of their citizens (which is what they are, essentially), they could be a legitimate government of a legitimate state. They already effectively have a state in the Gaza Strip. But their leaders would prefer to fight their ideological war and sacrifice their own people for it. As often is the case, it's the leaders of the people with their ideological ideas who are most responsible for the deaths of their own population.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

#117

What's the actual account you're posting these emergency alerts on? I looked at your @yuvadm account and couldn't see any retweets. (Side note, I'd perhaps change your Archimedes joke in your Twitter description, given where you are and what you're doing)

https://twitter.com/rotternews

Source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8007093

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

#118
post #97

I think you mean, "Many casualties on the Palestinian side." Has ANYONE been killed in Israel? While Gaza is bombarded and dozens are dead, including children. Don't try to equate the oppressor with the oppressed.

There would be less people killed on the Palestinian side if Hamas' strategy didn't include purposefully putting civilians in harms way, such as by using them (including children) for human shields when Israel gives advance notice that a particular building is going to be bombed [1] [2]. [1] http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/09/world/middleeast/by-phone-... [2] http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/08/world/meast/mideast-tensions/…

There would be less people killed if Israel's strategy didn't include creating settlements in Palestinian territory. There's lots that can be done to reduce casualties.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

#119
post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There would be less people killed on the Palestinian side if Hamas' strategy didn't include purposefully putting civilians in harms way, such as by using them (including children) for human shields when Israel gives advance notice that a particular building is going to be bombed [1] [2]. [1] http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/09/world/middleeast/by-phone-... [2] http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/08/world/meast/mideast-tensions/…

Yea, wtf, why would people live with their families? And why don't they have fancy bomb shelters like Israel! The leaflets are practically taunts. Where are the people of Gaza to go? How are they to get out? http://www.juancole.com/2014/07/numbers-people-there.html

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