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Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by al_borland »

I bought one a few months ago and ended up returning it without the 2 week return window.

Actual work is a non-starter, since screen mirroring inside the VP requires the laptop be logged into iCloud, and the same iCloud account… both of which my company does not allow.

On my personal laptop, I tried it for about 10 minutes and didn’t see the point. It felt like technology for technology’s sake and wasn’t adding anything truly meaningful to the experience. The buggy window manager and bulk of the headset would require it add a lot of value to make it worth it.

While it could be my eyes, I also didn’t find it all that clear. Some things seemed tacky sharp, while other things looked blurry. This really made me uncomfortable.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by mynameyeff »

Oreb wrote: post #28

Yes. I spend maybe half of the year (on average) away from home, traveling with my MacBook. I bought the Vision Pro to use as a portable display, and I’ve been extremely happy with it. I work in it about 8 hours per day whenever I’m away from my home office setup, and quite often even when I’m at home. Having an enormous virtual screen is not the only benefit, I also feel that the immersion helps my focus. It’s easie…

Interesting!

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by wlonkly »

amelius wrote: post #67
fh973 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Balance presumably.

If __they__ can do it: https://www.istockphoto.com/nl/foto/indian-little-girls-carr...

If the Vision Pro was balanced on top of the head, it would definitely be easier to sustain for a longer period of time, but the weight is attached to the front. That means you're holding it up with your neck muscles instead of straight down your spine.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by boomskats »

swiftcoder wrote: post #48
boomskats wrote: post #26

I far prefer my Viture XR glasses to the vision pro. Pretty sure this was also the case in 2024 :)

So this is something I've been wondering. How much does the extra ~$3k of functionality on the Vision Pro contribute to pure coding workflows, versus one of the many sub-$1k "virtual TV in a pair of glasses" products?

I like having control over font hinting and aliasing and stuff, so I really prefer the latter.

I found the AVP fun at first, but then after a few days it started to get more and more annoying- whereas the Vitures were a bit annoying at first, but then just became amazing after my eyes/brain got used to them. Almost overnight.

Niri makes a huge difference. As does something like this https://github.com/boomskats/woahland

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by DANmode »

wffurr wrote: post #36
ladberg wrote: post #20

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If anything I think the Vision Pro is more discreet on a plane! No big bright screen to annoy or distract other passengers with, plus I can keep my laptop nearly clamshelled on my lap while I work without having to use the tray table

People definitely notice the person with the unusual things strapped to their face.

Discrete privacy vs discrete “I don’t like attention” are two different traits.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by ShinyLeftPad »

tsimionescu wrote: post #38
F7F7F7 wrote: post #14

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The project has not been scraped or scrapped. Any outlet that reported that walked it back. It’s reportedly put on hold while they work on the glasses. Its fate might ultimately end up all the same. I own a AVP and it’s super niche. Can’t blame Apple for putting their attention on the more wearable glasses form factor. Also, in the year that I’ve owned my AVP I can count on one hand the amount of times I’ve been in f…

It is obviously walked waaaayyy back from the original plans, and any hype is well and truly dead. AR/VR in general are a tech dead end that sounds cool to some sci-fi enthusiasts and has some niche entertainment applications, but that's inevitably it, every time it rears its head.

For every comment like this there's 5 from actual users who enjoy it. I know multiple people who tried it in store and want it but don't have the money. It's a product for pro developers with money to spare who will create the initial ecosystem for future casual users.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by _kb »

bpavuk wrote: post #78
prmoustache wrote: post #73

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The future is not needing to strap some heavy thing to your face but have a chip directly connected to your brain to serve as an interface for a computer.

UGH! imagine a BCI chip serving advertisements into your brain directly and recording everything from how you breathe to how you fuck to "personalize" said ads. no, I love technology, but I will never bind a piece of tech directly into my brain. we failed with mobile phones and we WILL definitely fail with BCI chips, ON THE EXACT SAME SPOTS. they will be impressive, sure, but they will also hold us captive past user…

Black Mirror already did that episode: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_People_(Black_Mirror).

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by biinjo »

mgrandl wrote: post #106
tasoeur wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve worked in VR for a long time (including visionPro) and my eyesight definitely got worse. The most ironic thing to me is how iPhone has this screen distance warning telling you to move the screen further from your face while Vision Pro is literally an iPhone strapped to your face.

I was told the issue isn’t the physical distance of the screen to your eyes, but the distance of where your eyes are focusing? So in VR if you focus on an object a meter away it shouldn’t strain your eyes as much as a phone screen 10cm away? No idea if this is scientifically proven.

Your eyes are still looking at an object (roughly?) 10cm away from your face: the screens. Your eyes are not adjusting focus. Any focus (or blur) you see in VR is simulated depth.

So yes, the issue is indeed the distance where your eyes are focussing, caused by the fact that they're constantly focussing on something very close to your face.

My optician told me its like stretching your arm while holding something heavy. At first that's no problem. But eventually your muscles will start burning and you can't hold it and even when you relax your arm it still hurts if you held it for too long.

As far as I'm aware there are no VR headsets yet that adjust the live generated depth vision based on the diaphragm of your eyes. That would be wild.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by qup »

dubeye wrote: post #110

I was a heavy quest user but I think it ruined my eyes a bit and I needed glasses after having 20 20. Could be standard aging but the correlation was very strong

You need glasses to see far-away stuff now?

Doing close work with your eyes can cause your ciliary muscles (they flex your lenses to focus) to be overworked. They seize up, and lose the ability to relax to their former length. When your lens can't relax, you can no longer focus to infinity.

"Nearpoint stress" is the term I believe

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by culopatin »

mchinen wrote: post #58
Oreb wrote: post #28

Yes. I spend maybe half of the year (on average) away from home, traveling with my MacBook. I bought the Vision Pro to use as a portable display, and I’ve been extremely happy with it. I work in it about 8 hours per day whenever I’m away from my home office setup, and quite often even when I’m at home. Having an enormous virtual screen is not the only benefit, I also feel that the immersion helps my focus. It’s easie…

Have you tried a Quest 3 for similar purposes? Curious how they compare.

My room gets pretty bright in the afternoon and my screen sucks in that environment. I’ve been using the quest 3 and while I don’t think it’s perfect from a software point of view (like why do the windows snap at x distances? Why can’t I pick?) it’s pretty good. It lets me have a smallish display on my desk and when I need it, I have 3 displays in VR. Compared to the cost of the apple device, you can upgrade 3 times before you get to the cost of the apple vision.
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